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		<title>By: Plunderbund - &#187; An Armageddon of Incompetence</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-107917</link>
		<dc:creator>Plunderbund - &#187; An Armageddon of Incompetence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were both banging on Sherrod Brown and supporting Paul Hackett. Once that race came to it&#8217;s final and painful conclusion, Russell talked about changing it into a community blog like a DailyKos for Ohio. Buckeye State [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were both banging on Sherrod Brown and supporting Paul Hackett. Once that race came to it&#8217;s final and painful conclusion, Russell talked about changing it into a community blog like a DailyKos for Ohio. Buckeye State [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Plunderbund - &#187; Valentine&#8217;s Day Massacre in Reverse?</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-96957</link>
		<dc:creator>Plunderbund - &#187; Valentine&#8217;s Day Massacre in Reverse?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] years ago yesterday Ohio got it&#8217;s famous Valentine&#8217;s Day Massacre. Then a rising political star with a gift for rousing stump speeches and ability to draw in both [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] years ago yesterday Ohio got it&#8217;s famous Valentine&#8217;s Day Massacre. Then a rising political star with a gift for rousing stump speeches and ability to draw in both [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Plunderbund &#187; I Have Not Yet Begun To Fight!</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>Plunderbund &#187; I Have Not Yet Begun To Fight!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I personally went through a great many mental and emotional swings. My first reaction was in what I called the Valentine&#8217;s Day Massacre - a political mob style hit that took out a threatening rising star to the current establishment. My gut level, emotional decision was to say &#8220;Fuck &#8216;em&#8221; and draw up anchor and head to the West Indies. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I personally went through a great many mental and emotional swings. My first reaction was in what I called the Valentine&#8217;s Day Massacre &#8211; a political mob style hit that took out a threatening rising star to the current establishment. My gut level, emotional decision was to say &#8220;Fuck &#8216;em&#8221; and draw up anchor and head to the West Indies. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with you Eric. And you know where I am coming from. To hell with ODP. Redfern and Rothenberg? Are you reading this? We are serious. You lost the netroots and grassroots. Yet we will not sit still, we will continue to be the voice of Ohio that needs to be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with you Eric. And you know where I am coming from. To hell with ODP. Redfern and Rothenberg? Are you reading this? We are serious. You lost the netroots and grassroots. Yet we will not sit still, we will continue to be the voice of Ohio that needs to be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Adkins</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Adkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, ODUB. Let&#039;s hope enough Ds stand with us to make a statement and get this house in order before 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, ODUB. Let&#8217;s hope enough Ds stand with us to make a statement and get this house in order before 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohio Dems Unwanted Backbone</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>Ohio Dems Unwanted Backbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m gagging on entire ODP .. AND .. Strickland for what they did .. AND .. didn&#039;t do for Paul Hackett and Eric Fingerhut. Also, the strong-arm intimidation tactics to put a do-nothing-preppy-puppet-wussy in as ODP chair kept the better man of Dennis Lieberman out. Country bumpkin Strickland has absolutely no clue about how to deal with inner-city Progressives and African-Americans.  I&#039;ll sit this one out because it is evident that Rod Parsley is going to kick Strickland&#039;s &quot;ordained minister&quot; ass ... sad but true !!  Also, Sherrod Brown lost my support after I witnessed him verbally attack a 70-year-old woman at the ODP Christmas party. That was way too far from the Christmas spirt for my tastes Mr. Brown!  How dare you! You acted as if you are above common courtesy and respect for your elders. Well, I for one believe you are NOT!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gagging on entire ODP .. AND .. Strickland for what they did .. AND .. didn&#8217;t do for Paul Hackett and Eric Fingerhut. Also, the strong-arm intimidation tactics to put a do-nothing-preppy-puppet-wussy in as ODP chair kept the better man of Dennis Lieberman out. Country bumpkin Strickland has absolutely no clue about how to deal with inner-city Progressives and African-Americans.  I&#8217;ll sit this one out because it is evident that Rod Parsley is going to kick Strickland&#8217;s &#8220;ordained minister&#8221; ass &#8230; sad but true !!  Also, Sherrod Brown lost my support after I witnessed him verbally attack a 70-year-old woman at the ODP Christmas party. That was way too far from the Christmas spirt for my tastes Mr. Brown!  How dare you! You acted as if you are above common courtesy and respect for your elders. Well, I for one believe you are NOT!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Minor</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Minor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gloria&#039;s got the idea, guys.  Form your own new party.  One that will never let you down.  One that always has candidates you love the most.  Yes, what will you platform be?

Let see, where can you go and see examples of platforms.  Hey check out the Dems and Reepubs and Greens and Communists and Socialists and others and then guys start blogging together and working together and work it all out so that all of you bloggers are equally perfectly content.  Then find the one perfect candidate that you all love equally and then work and blog for them as fast as your fingers can type and maybe she&#039;ll be elected president.  That will be a great day. 

Party platforms are essentially a set of ideals and values reflected in policy statements.  Declaring one&#039;s party is to allign yourself with a party platform, not the current party boss.  You know the concept, we are a nation of laws not of rulers.  So (some powerful) the Dems pissed you off and so you want to change parties.  OK, then I guess if Dubya pisses you off, you should what, move to Canada?  Find a party you like based on the ideals, then put your time and work into making it an organization whose deeds can approach the values embodied in their platform. It&#039;s work, a helluva a lotta work! And this boys and girls is called politics.  

Hey, make your own party, and then try to work out a platform and try to get organized and try to get candidates and try to raise money and then try to get elected then try to keep ALL of your constituents happy and try to be true to your platform and yet try to appeal to the masses yet adhere to your values.  Eeesh guys. 

Everytime you shun the Dem party, Karl Rove loves you more.  Not that dem leaders deserve your support, obviously, often, very often, they don&#039;t.  Not the point. You&#039;re working for your kids future, not for Redfern or whomever, get it?  Reepubs win cuz Dems quit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gloria&#8217;s got the idea, guys.  Form your own new party.  One that will never let you down.  One that always has candidates you love the most.  Yes, what will you platform be?</p>
<p>Let see, where can you go and see examples of platforms.  Hey check out the Dems and Reepubs and Greens and Communists and Socialists and others and then guys start blogging together and working together and work it all out so that all of you bloggers are equally perfectly content.  Then find the one perfect candidate that you all love equally and then work and blog for them as fast as your fingers can type and maybe she&#8217;ll be elected president.  That will be a great day. </p>
<p>Party platforms are essentially a set of ideals and values reflected in policy statements.  Declaring one&#8217;s party is to allign yourself with a party platform, not the current party boss.  You know the concept, we are a nation of laws not of rulers.  So (some powerful) the Dems pissed you off and so you want to change parties.  OK, then I guess if Dubya pisses you off, you should what, move to Canada?  Find a party you like based on the ideals, then put your time and work into making it an organization whose deeds can approach the values embodied in their platform. It&#8217;s work, a helluva a lotta work! And this boys and girls is called politics.  </p>
<p>Hey, make your own party, and then try to work out a platform and try to get organized and try to get candidates and try to raise money and then try to get elected then try to keep ALL of your constituents happy and try to be true to your platform and yet try to appeal to the masses yet adhere to your values.  Eeesh guys. </p>
<p>Everytime you shun the Dem party, Karl Rove loves you more.  Not that dem leaders deserve your support, obviously, often, very often, they don&#8217;t.  Not the point. You&#8217;re working for your kids future, not for Redfern or whomever, get it?  Reepubs win cuz Dems quit.</p>
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		<title>By: NixGuy.com &#187; Hackett, the Ohio Democratic Party, and the lefty Blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>NixGuy.com &#187; Hackett, the Ohio Democratic Party, and the lefty Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Plunderbund:  For me, this day will be remembered as the day I became a registered independent and issue activist and swore off the Democrat party. The party does not want my help or to help me. This was first evident to me during the fight to reform Ohio elections - dubbed Reform Ohio Now. I single handedly had to organize work in my county because a party that had been around for who knows how long was unwilling and unable to. I watched while Democrats in meeting after meeting nodded their head in eager approval of how important the reform amendments were, while never once lifting a finger to do something about it. They left me out on the streets much like Paul is today. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Plunderbund:  For me, this day will be remembered as the day I became a registered independent and issue activist and swore off the Democrat party. The party does not want my help or to help me. This was first evident to me during the fight to reform Ohio elections &#8211; dubbed Reform Ohio Now. I single handedly had to organize work in my county because a party that had been around for who knows how long was unwilling and unable to. I watched while Democrats in meeting after meeting nodded their head in eager approval of how important the reform amendments were, while never once lifting a finger to do something about it. They left me out on the streets much like Paul is today. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria Ferris</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria Ferris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it is a day when a new party forms in Ohio.
It would be our party.  What would we want the platform to be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is a day when a new party forms in Ohio.<br />
It would be our party.  What would we want the platform to be?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/02/14/valentines-day-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yeah, that&#039;s what I meant of course.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yeah, that&#8217;s what I meant of course.  Thanks!</p>
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