Comments on: Paging Bill Ritter (audio) http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/ A Progressive Political Playground Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:11:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Plunderbund - » Sock Obama Website: We Won’t Be Making Any http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-101368 Plunderbund - » Sock Obama Website: We Won’t Be Making Any Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:25:17 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-101368 [...] appears we have a complete and total Plunderbund victory. I haven’t felt this good since gay baiting Bill Ritter went down in [...] […] appears we have a complete and total Plunderbund victory. I haven’t felt this good since gay baiting Bill Ritter went down in […]

]]> By: ProgressOhio Blog » Blog Archive » In The Eye of the Blogstorm http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-6309 ProgressOhio Blog » Blog Archive » In The Eye of the Blogstorm Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:47:46 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-6309 [...] Maybe Earl should place a call to Bill Ritter and find out how to deal with all this. Then again…perhaps not. [...] […] Maybe Earl should place a call to Bill Ritter and find out how to deal with all this. Then again…perhaps not. […]

]]> By: Sally http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-1581 Sally Sat, 06 May 2006 12:15:03 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-1581 The term "gay marriage" is killing the cause. "Domestic partnership" would be more descriptive, would not discriminate against heterosexual couples, and sound less offensive. Bill Ritter realizes that. I wish many others would too. The term “gay marriage” is killing the cause. “Domestic partnership” would be more descriptive, would not discriminate against heterosexual couples, and sound less offensive. Bill Ritter realizes that. I wish many others would too.

]]> By: Lyndsey http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-1539 Lyndsey Thu, 04 May 2006 11:18:54 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-1539 Uh... nevermind the whole "separation of church and state" thing...?! Any politician discussing how churches will be affected should be removed from the ballot. Or at least sent back to sit through high school government class again. How the hell do you actually justify such an argument in a POLITICAL CONTEXT? Uh… nevermind the whole “separation of church and state” thing…?! Any politician discussing how churches will be affected should be removed from the ballot. Or at least sent back to sit through high school government class again.

How the hell do you actually justify such an argument in a POLITICAL CONTEXT?

]]> By: Eric http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-1521 Eric Thu, 04 May 2006 00:28:19 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-1521 Polo, Congrats. You just got nominated for idiotic post of the year! I did not know there was such an organization as "church as a whole". Very interesting. Where does the International CAAW meet? I'd like to attend. In case you didn't know, the state makes marriages legally binding. You can't separate the two. The argument that all churches would have to condone gay marriages is complete bull. It's an excuse the likes of Bill Ritter use to oppose gay marriage while claiming to not be against it. There is absolutely no imposition of gay marriage on churches that do not condone it. There will be plenty that will (UU and such) and it is highly reasonable to expect the government can sanction those that do without requiring all churches to perform them. It's really a stupid argument. Can I now sue to have a Buddhist wedding ceremony performed by Southern Baptists? Of course I can't. Polo,

Congrats. You just got nominated for idiotic post of the year! I did not know there was such an organization as “church as a whole”. Very interesting. Where does the International CAAW meet? I’d like to attend.

In case you didn’t know, the state makes marriages legally binding. You can’t separate the two. The argument that all churches would have to condone gay marriages is complete bull. It’s an excuse the likes of Bill Ritter use to oppose gay marriage while claiming to not be against it.

There is absolutely no imposition of gay marriage on churches that do not condone it. There will be plenty that will (UU and such) and it is highly reasonable to expect the government can sanction those that do without requiring all churches to perform them.

It’s really a stupid argument. Can I now sue to have a Buddhist wedding ceremony performed by Southern Baptists? Of course I can’t.

]]> By: Polo Man http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-1511 Polo Man Wed, 03 May 2006 18:58:23 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-1511 The term marriage has to do with the church. The church as a whole last time i checked did not agree with gay marriage. Now this is not to say gays shouldnt have rights. All of the legal benefits should be given to gays as legal married couples in terms of the government. But when it comes to 'marriage' it sounds like you are dealing with the church and its not the place for that. The government shouldnt be involved in the church at all. If gays want rights, they should have rights so far as the government should give them what legal married couples have. As far as married, i wouldnt call it married, then you are going on moral grounds which is what I disagree with. If gays want to get married, make a church in which that is THEIR belief, not imposing it on churches to where it is not. So give gay people their rights and benefits, but don't impose their beliefs with people who dont agree. It is such a broad topic, i can see how people misunderstood Bill, and he not a gay basher, you are Bill-bashers, even more guilty of what you think he said. The term marriage has to do with the church. The church as a whole last time i checked did not agree with gay marriage. Now this is not to say gays shouldnt have rights. All of the legal benefits should be given to gays as legal married couples in terms of the government. But when it comes to ‘marriage’ it sounds like you are dealing with the church and its not the place for that. The government shouldnt be involved in the church at all. If gays want rights, they should have rights so far as the government should give them what legal married couples have. As far as married, i wouldnt call it married, then you are going on moral grounds which is what I disagree with. If gays want to get married, make a church in which that is THEIR belief, not imposing it on churches to where it is not. So give gay people their rights and benefits, but don’t impose their beliefs with people who dont agree. It is such a broad topic, i can see how people misunderstood Bill, and he not a gay basher, you are Bill-bashers, even more guilty of what you think he said.

]]> By: Plunderbund » Ritter Watch http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-1497 Plunderbund » Ritter Watch Wed, 03 May 2006 04:55:12 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-1497 [...] You know, the gay basher! Currently leading 36/34 over Mike Foley with 57% reporting… [...] […] You know, the gay basher! Currently leading 36/34 over Mike Foley with 57% reporting… […]

]]> By: Eric http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-1495 Eric Wed, 03 May 2006 03:59:07 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-1495 Polo Man, You are kidding right? Brave? He's a complete pandering coward without the guts to stand up and stand for the right thing. He's a gutless un-Amerian swine and if you think gays should be discriminated against, then so are you! Sorry to go all Russell on you, but I'm tired and not willing to let this shit slide! Polo Man,

You are kidding right? Brave? He’s a complete pandering coward without the guts to stand up and stand for the right thing. He’s a gutless un-Amerian swine and if you think gays should be discriminated against, then so are you! Sorry to go all Russell on you, but I’m tired and not willing to let this shit slide!

]]> By: Polo Man http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-1493 Polo Man Wed, 03 May 2006 03:41:10 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-1493 i dont understand why everyone thinks that just because you are under a certain party, why you must follow EVERY PARTY ISSUE, to me it seems like people who do that are just yes-men. i think Ritter is brave for standing up for himself. Good Job Bill!!! i dont understand why everyone thinks that just because you are under a certain party, why you must follow EVERY PARTY ISSUE, to me it seems like people who do that are just yes-men. i think Ritter is brave for standing up for himself. Good Job Bill!!!

]]> By: Eric http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/04/26/paging-bill-ritter-audio/#comment-1445 Eric Mon, 01 May 2006 14:44:18 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/?p=611#comment-1445 Thanks to all for the props! Funny how a spur of the moment decision blows up. I love me some Gizmo! Thanks to all for the props! Funny how a spur of the moment decision blows up. I love me some Gizmo!

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