Comments on: Why the Democrats will win in 2008 http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/11/27/why-the-democrats-will-win-in-2008/ A Progressive Political Playground Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:54:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Evan http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/11/27/why-the-democrats-will-win-in-2008/#comment-35005 Evan Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:53:53 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/11/27/why-the-democrats-will-win-in-2008/#comment-35005 Theres plenty of time for Mitt to win over support before the primaries. Everywhere you go, once people meet Mitt and see what he's all about, then it becomes a no brainer. His intelligence,charisma, character, and class is so far above any other candidate from either side. Theres plenty of time for Mitt to win over support before the primaries. Everywhere you go, once people meet Mitt and see what he’s all about, then it becomes a no brainer. His intelligence,charisma, character, and class is so far above any other candidate from either side.

]]> By: Brian http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/11/27/why-the-democrats-will-win-in-2008/#comment-11619 Brian Tue, 28 Nov 2006 01:54:24 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/11/27/why-the-democrats-will-win-in-2008/#comment-11619 The insanity starts when someone like <em>Petro</em> is classified as a RINO. Or Voinovich, for the occasional instance where he elects to be pragmatic rather than dogmatic. The gun lobby is about the only pet conservative cause that has legitimate beef with Voinovich. He is consistently anti-labor, anti-abortion, anti-tax, and strongly free-trade, and despite all this he's labeled a RINO because he thought it irresponsible to cut taxes during a war, and that nuking the filibuster would have been foolish (bet he looks pretty smart on that one now). I see zero sign that the Christianist "base" gets it. You can call a guy who doesn't exhibit 100% compliance with the planks you hold dear a "RINO", but that doesn't make it true. Again, Romney is the closest Christianists will get to having a true-blue social conservative in the White House in '08. If not him, who? Nobody more electable, that's for sure. Giuliani? He's more liberal than Romney! The insanity starts when someone like Petro is classified as a RINO. Or Voinovich, for the occasional instance where he elects to be pragmatic rather than dogmatic. The gun lobby is about the only pet conservative cause that has legitimate beef with Voinovich. He is consistently anti-labor, anti-abortion, anti-tax, and strongly free-trade, and despite all this he’s labeled a RINO because he thought it irresponsible to cut taxes during a war, and that nuking the filibuster would have been foolish (bet he looks pretty smart on that one now).

I see zero sign that the Christianist “base” gets it. You can call a guy who doesn’t exhibit 100% compliance with the planks you hold dear a “RINO”, but that doesn’t make it true. Again, Romney is the closest Christianists will get to having a true-blue social conservative in the White House in ‘08. If not him, who? Nobody more electable, that’s for sure. Giuliani? He’s more liberal than Romney!

]]> By: Dave http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/11/27/why-the-democrats-will-win-in-2008/#comment-11618 Dave Tue, 28 Nov 2006 01:03:25 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/11/27/why-the-democrats-will-win-in-2008/#comment-11618 The problem with Romney and his liberal social issues is that he brings nothing on the table that is worth making the sacrifice on the social issues, especially considering the other candidates out there. I personally believe that the 2008 election will, again, be about war and terrorism. I'm not saying that that cuts against Democrats, as they proved in 2006, but Iraq and terrorism is going to dwarf the usual social issues, especially as these are seen as state by state projects now. All that being said, the CW that socially moderate GOP liberals are dead in the water for GOP primaries is absolutely 180 degrees wrong. A socially moderate liberal, who is also fiscally conservative, strong on defense, a truly outstanding spokesperson and is competitive in Democratic areas will have no problems with the GOP base, especially if the other choice is McCain, which much of the base absolutely despises. That could be Romney, but it also could be Giuliani. The Democrats 06 victory changed the presidential nomination dynamics completely. It's all about winning now. The problem with Romney and his liberal social issues is that he brings nothing on the table that is worth making the sacrifice on the social issues, especially considering the other candidates out there.

I personally believe that the 2008 election will, again, be about war and terrorism. I’m not saying that that cuts against Democrats, as they proved in 2006, but Iraq and terrorism is going to dwarf the usual social issues, especially as these are seen as state by state projects now.

All that being said, the CW that socially moderate GOP liberals are dead in the water for GOP primaries is absolutely 180 degrees wrong. A socially moderate liberal, who is also fiscally conservative, strong on defense, a truly outstanding spokesperson and is competitive in Democratic areas will have no problems with the GOP base, especially if the other choice is McCain, which much of the base absolutely despises.

That could be Romney, but it also could be Giuliani. The Democrats 06 victory changed the presidential nomination dynamics completely. It’s all about winning now.

]]> By: Modern Esquire http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/11/27/why-the-democrats-will-win-in-2008/#comment-11589 Modern Esquire Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:54:32 +0000 http://www.plunderbund.com/2006/11/27/why-the-democrats-will-win-in-2008/#comment-11589 Wouldn't this be the same Mitt Romney that Blackwell so prominently campaigned with and decided to run on a health care plan modeled after Romney's? Wouldn’t this be the same Mitt Romney that Blackwell so prominently campaigned with and decided to run on a health care plan modeled after Romney’s?

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