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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2008/03/14/cruisers-and-curfews-and-cameras-oh-my/#comment-98149</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15:  Agreed!  You entering a bracket in the PlunderPool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15:  Agreed!  You entering a bracket in the PlunderPool?</p>
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		<title>By: JAMES  RUGGIERO</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2008/03/14/cruisers-and-curfews-and-cameras-oh-my/#comment-98148</link>
		<dc:creator>JAMES  RUGGIERO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for allowing me an uncensored  voice on this subject. It angers me greatly and perhaps I went a little overboard the profanity.

I would report the officers, to CPD  or the media  if I did not fear retribution. 
And btw they do retaliate!  I wish I could feel protected explaining how I know this.

 Next time I will have my cell phone camera running.  Had I called 911 I believe they would have responded but  way to late. 

Thanks again, from outside the green zone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for allowing me an uncensored  voice on this subject. It angers me greatly and perhaps I went a little overboard the profanity.</p>
<p>I would report the officers, to CPD  or the media  if I did not fear retribution.<br />
And btw they do retaliate!  I wish I could feel protected explaining how I know this.</p>
<p> Next time I will have my cell phone camera running.  Had I called 911 I believe they would have responded but  way to late. </p>
<p>Thanks again, from outside the green zone!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And my point wasn't that you should necessarily move, James.   It was just that one part of personal safety is being able to protect yourself in bad situations- the other part is trying to avoid those situations.

And I agree- cameras aren't as effective and having more cops on the street.

And next time- get the badge number/name/license plate number of the cops who ignored your complaint and then call the city.

If that doesn't work- call the Dispatch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And my point wasn&#8217;t that you should necessarily move, James.   It was just that one part of personal safety is being able to protect yourself in bad situations- the other part is trying to avoid those situations.</p>
<p>And I agree- cameras aren&#8217;t as effective and having more cops on the street.</p>
<p>And next time- get the badge number/name/license plate number of the cops who ignored your complaint and then call the city.</p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t work- call the Dispatch.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We didn't remove your comment, James.  It just got picked up by the spam filter because of the profanity.

I pulled it out of the 'spam' folder and posted it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We didn&#8217;t remove your comment, James.  It just got picked up by the spam filter because of the profanity.</p>
<p>I pulled it out of the &#8217;spam&#8217; folder and posted it.</p>
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		<title>By: JAMES  RUGGIERO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAMES  RUGGIERO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank for removing my post! Was it the words or the sediment?</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@13:  Gordo, you don't have to mention race when discussing urban/suburban socio-economic issues.  It's inextricably tied.  Look up the terms "white flight" and "redlining" to get an idea of how.

You seem to have a decided lack of "introspection" on the causes for urban flight as well - along with any real solution.  It's not just a simple matter of "imitating suburbs".  In fact, I'd argue it could be the exact opposite.

Funny you should mention France.  They actually have a SUBURBAN problem.  Their cities didn't die, but the poor and disenfranchised moved outward to the 'burbs.  That's where all the riots in 2005 were.

The mortgage crisis upon us (free market baby!) may give us a similar problem as the nice manicured safe neighborhoods could turn to rotting corpses of their former selves as the growth stops and the need for services begins to outstrip tax receipts (see &lt;a ref="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/15/BU7NVIT2O.DTL" rel="nofollow"&gt;SFGate&lt;/a&gt;).

Luckily more Americans are buying into walkable development and New Urbanism.  That's a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13:  Gordo, you don&#8217;t have to mention race when discussing urban/suburban socio-economic issues.  It&#8217;s inextricably tied.  Look up the terms &#8220;white flight&#8221; and &#8220;redlining&#8221; to get an idea of how.</p>
<p>You seem to have a decided lack of &#8220;introspection&#8221; on the causes for urban flight as well - along with any real solution.  It&#8217;s not just a simple matter of &#8220;imitating suburbs&#8221;.  In fact, I&#8217;d argue it could be the exact opposite.</p>
<p>Funny you should mention France.  They actually have a SUBURBAN problem.  Their cities didn&#8217;t die, but the poor and disenfranchised moved outward to the &#8216;burbs.  That&#8217;s where all the riots in 2005 were.</p>
<p>The mortgage crisis upon us (free market baby!) may give us a similar problem as the nice manicured safe neighborhoods could turn to rotting corpses of their former selves as the growth stops and the need for services begins to outstrip tax receipts (see <a ref="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/15/BU7NVIT2O.DTL" rel="nofollow">SFGate</a>).</p>
<p>Luckily more Americans are buying into walkable development and New Urbanism.  That&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way.... Duke still sucks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way&#8230;. Duke still sucks</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I don't know where you get race from. I don't mention it anywhere.

My point is this. Columbus may be growing as a city but they are the exception that proves the rule.

In general, look at any predominately "Blue" area and you will find a population loss, state or city. There's a reason for that. Yet I find that there is a total lack of introspection on the part of "progressives" to ask why?.

People are not leaving this country to go to Cuba because of the healthcare. People there are risking their lives to come here; don't they know we don't have free healthcare?

But why do you "progressives" insist on trying to make our country look more like Cuba when the world's population says otherwise?

I've never considered myself the smartest guy in the world but I watch the those guys do and I imitate it.

I'm offering that cities should do the same. Want to look like Detroit? Do what they do? Want your city to look like a suburb? Imitate one. You'll have a city with lower crime, better schools, lower taxes, etc. In other words, places people will move to instead of away from.

The way of life you guys propose looks like France, and I guess that's fine if you want a country with 11% unemployment and lots of racial unrest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I don&#8217;t know where you get race from. I don&#8217;t mention it anywhere.</p>
<p>My point is this. Columbus may be growing as a city but they are the exception that proves the rule.</p>
<p>In general, look at any predominately &#8220;Blue&#8221; area and you will find a population loss, state or city. There&#8217;s a reason for that. Yet I find that there is a total lack of introspection on the part of &#8220;progressives&#8221; to ask why?.</p>
<p>People are not leaving this country to go to Cuba because of the healthcare. People there are risking their lives to come here; don&#8217;t they know we don&#8217;t have free healthcare?</p>
<p>But why do you &#8220;progressives&#8221; insist on trying to make our country look more like Cuba when the world&#8217;s population says otherwise?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never considered myself the smartest guy in the world but I watch the those guys do and I imitate it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m offering that cities should do the same. Want to look like Detroit? Do what they do? Want your city to look like a suburb? Imitate one. You&#8217;ll have a city with lower crime, better schools, lower taxes, etc. In other words, places people will move to instead of away from.</p>
<p>The way of life you guys propose looks like France, and I guess that&#8217;s fine if you want a country with 11% unemployment and lots of racial unrest.</p>
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		<title>By: JAMES  RUGGIERO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAMES  RUGGIERO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah the pigs ignored me. And actually it was a two officer car , so you can say two pigs fucking  ignored a serious felony in prorgrss. 

The guy was not shooting to celebrate  New Years, he was trying to kill some one ... do you get it? And it wasn't me. I could have shot him, and I would have too protect my neighbor (because obviously no one else is protecting them) had I thought I would not get charged for some BS reason.

I guess your suggesting I move. Well that's fucking nice, did you say that about the people trapped in New Orleans? These cops wait for the bodies to drop before coming in to this neighbor hood.  

So much for Mayor Coleman's efforts. Cameras aren't going change that fact bud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the pigs ignored me. And actually it was a two officer car , so you can say two pigs fucking  ignored a serious felony in prorgrss. </p>
<p>The guy was not shooting to celebrate  New Years, he was trying to kill some one &#8230; do you get it? And it wasn&#8217;t me. I could have shot him, and I would have too protect my neighbor (because obviously no one else is protecting them) had I thought I would not get charged for some BS reason.</p>
<p>I guess your suggesting I move. Well that&#8217;s fucking nice, did you say that about the people trapped in New Orleans? These cops wait for the bodies to drop before coming in to this neighbor hood.  </p>
<p>So much for Mayor Coleman&#8217;s efforts. Cameras aren&#8217;t going change that fact bud!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, 

I'm not sure what the Columbus police department's policy is on calls related to someone firing a gun in public.   One would assume that these would take priority over, say, drinking coffee. 

Maybe the officer called it in and was waiting for backup?  Maybe another car was already responding?  Hell- maybe HE was the one doing the shooting?  Or maybe he really did just ignore you.  I'm not sure.

I do think most cops do their job (and it is just a job) the best they can- but they can't be everywhere at once.

Everyone should, generally speaking, lookout for their own safety as much as possible- and not simply trust that someone else is doing it for you.

Which, I suppose, is why I don't live in "the worst part of town".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the Columbus police department&#8217;s policy is on calls related to someone firing a gun in public.   One would assume that these would take priority over, say, drinking coffee. </p>
<p>Maybe the officer called it in and was waiting for backup?  Maybe another car was already responding?  Hell- maybe HE was the one doing the shooting?  Or maybe he really did just ignore you.  I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
<p>I do think most cops do their job (and it is just a job) the best they can- but they can&#8217;t be everywhere at once.</p>
<p>Everyone should, generally speaking, lookout for their own safety as much as possible- and not simply trust that someone else is doing it for you.</p>
<p>Which, I suppose, is why I don&#8217;t live in &#8220;the worst part of town&#8221;.</p>
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