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	<title>Comments on: Jessica Utovich and Marc Dann Both Lied To Me</title>
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		<title>By: J-Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2008/05/02/jessica-utovich-and-marc-dann-lied-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-107457</link>
		<dc:creator>J-Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Putz, put me down for an &quot;Atta Boy, right on!&quot; for whatever it is you were saying...if I can ever figure out just what the heck you said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Putz, put me down for an &#8220;Atta Boy, right on!&#8221; for whatever it is you were saying&#8230;if I can ever figure out just what the heck you said.</p>
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		<title>By: putz</title>
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		<dc:creator>putz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really have NOTHIN personal AGAINST HIM BUT the *$@ lack of COMMON sense,etc.etc.Geeeezz..WOoow..N talk of HIm runnin for Mayor?! wha the $*@ is THAT...Im NOT part of the yachtclub or anything other such..WHEN have had REAGAN,Lincoln,FDR, Rhodes,or a Barack GOT THIS!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have NOTHIN personal AGAINST HIM BUT the *$@ lack of COMMON sense,etc.etc.Geeeezz..WOoow..N talk of HIm runnin for Mayor?! wha the $*@ is THAT&#8230;Im NOT part of the yachtclub or anything other such..WHEN have had REAGAN,Lincoln,FDR, Rhodes,or a Barack GOT THIS!?</p>
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		<title>By: putz</title>
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		<dc:creator>putz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COME to cleveland n see OUR dopey whutever...THOU Plaindealer gets 1/2 waaaaaaayy dooown the state...LOOK up CLEVELAND lakefront plan REdo...circa 2003..EX campbell admin.Ok was PART of WIDER plan to build Yuppesquewannabe E4 the Crash housing along w/NEW port...Port will event.make it...ALONG w/N HERE is the LOL is attempts by ROYANE to BUILD A MANMADE B I R D W A T C H E R &#039;ISLAND&#039; to attract Yups as a econ engine...IF ANY *$*@ deserves to get TOSSED...WHA the *$8@ is THIS..HOUSING..THIS has been GOIN on for NEAR 5 yrs..SOME $spent, ol Eastbank flats area LEVELED..Now this semi pigstyslopmuckhole that PROB.willSTI for yrs...LATELY lot of stuff LIKE that...lets face it..IN day n age of Web,expating,outsourcing,downszings,etc.HARD AS H to peddle projects when looks like....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COME to cleveland n see OUR dopey whutever&#8230;THOU Plaindealer gets 1/2 waaaaaaayy dooown the state&#8230;LOOK up CLEVELAND lakefront plan REdo&#8230;circa 2003..EX campbell admin.Ok was PART of WIDER plan to build Yuppesquewannabe E4 the Crash housing along w/NEW port&#8230;Port will event.make it&#8230;ALONG w/N HERE is the LOL is attempts by ROYANE to BUILD A MANMADE B I R D W A T C H E R &#8216;ISLAND&#8217; to attract Yups as a econ engine&#8230;IF ANY *$*@ deserves to get TOSSED&#8230;WHA the *$8@ is THIS..HOUSING..THIS has been GOIN on for NEAR 5 yrs..SOME $spent, ol Eastbank flats area LEVELED..Now this semi pigstyslopmuckhole that PROB.willSTI for yrs&#8230;LATELY lot of stuff LIKE that&#8230;lets face it..IN day n age of Web,expating,outsourcing,downszings,etc.HARD AS H to peddle projects when looks like&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2008/05/02/jessica-utovich-and-marc-dann-lied-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-100361</link>
		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope the state of ohio is listening to some of comments circulating on this issue!

it is so very important to realize that if marc dann is allowed to reign, we only give over power to all the others in charge of this country to let down their guard, knowing they are safe to cheat, steal, lie, abuse, intimidate, bribe, threaten, hurt,damage, and the list goes on! i know i was married to a psychopathic/bully politician...and i am very lucky to have lived to write this.

i was once told, &#039;when you first meet someone and your first impression is that they are the nicest person in the world.  look out, this is a sign of a psychopath.
people, speaking of psychopaths...add bullies to the group!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope the state of ohio is listening to some of comments circulating on this issue!</p>
<p>it is so very important to realize that if marc dann is allowed to reign, we only give over power to all the others in charge of this country to let down their guard, knowing they are safe to cheat, steal, lie, abuse, intimidate, bribe, threaten, hurt,damage, and the list goes on! i know i was married to a psychopathic/bully politician&#8230;and i am very lucky to have lived to write this.</p>
<p>i was once told, &#8216;when you first meet someone and your first impression is that they are the nicest person in the world.  look out, this is a sign of a psychopath.<br />
people, speaking of psychopaths&#8230;add bullies to the group!</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2008/05/02/jessica-utovich-and-marc-dann-lied-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-100200</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 09:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike the media and some others, I could care less whom our State Attorney General has sex with. As far as I am concerned, Marc Dann can continue with those acts until a part of his anatomy rots from ??? and falls off (or is chopped off by his wife).

What I am concerned about is how what Marc Dann does or doesnâ€™t do affects: his job performance; the effectiveness of the office of the Ohio Attorney General; the State of Ohio; and our communities.
In my opinion, Marc Dannâ€™s actions and neglect has caused problems.  I now question what other problems have Marc Dann caused by his acts or negligence that the public is not aware of?  What else has been covered up?

I have very serious concerns about Marc Dannâ€™s decision-making ability and his loyalty to the State of Ohio versus his friends.  

Marc Dannâ€™s reaction to being caught has in my opinion shown his immaturity.
I would like for Marc Dann to have a psychological evaluation due to the fact that, in my opinion, he has shown signs of being a psychopath. 

Marc Dannâ€™s behavior and negligence has caused me to loose all confidence in his future performance. 

Its time that Marc Dann starts putting the State of Ohio and itâ€™ communities first and step down to let someone the citizens of Ohio has confidence in take his place.

Readers, please look up â€œPsychopathâ€ on Wikipedia and see what you think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike the media and some others, I could care less whom our State Attorney General has sex with. As far as I am concerned, Marc Dann can continue with those acts until a part of his anatomy rots from ??? and falls off (or is chopped off by his wife).</p>
<p>What I am concerned about is how what Marc Dann does or doesnâ€™t do affects: his job performance; the effectiveness of the office of the Ohio Attorney General; the State of Ohio; and our communities.<br />
In my opinion, Marc Dannâ€™s actions and neglect has caused problems.  I now question what other problems have Marc Dann caused by his acts or negligence that the public is not aware of?  What else has been covered up?</p>
<p>I have very serious concerns about Marc Dannâ€™s decision-making ability and his loyalty to the State of Ohio versus his friends.  </p>
<p>Marc Dannâ€™s reaction to being caught has in my opinion shown his immaturity.<br />
I would like for Marc Dann to have a psychological evaluation due to the fact that, in my opinion, he has shown signs of being a psychopath. </p>
<p>Marc Dannâ€™s behavior and negligence has caused me to loose all confidence in his future performance. </p>
<p>Its time that Marc Dann starts putting the State of Ohio and itâ€™ communities first and step down to let someone the citizens of Ohio has confidence in take his place.</p>
<p>Readers, please look up â€œPsychopathâ€ on Wikipedia and see what you think.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page</a></p>
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		<title>By: Plunderbund - &#187; Commenter: Dann Office a &#8220;Crony-Driven Nuthouse&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plunderbund - &#187; Commenter: Dann Office a &#8220;Crony-Driven Nuthouse&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 15:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Friend of AAGs</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2008/05/02/jessica-utovich-and-marc-dann-lied-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-99969</link>
		<dc:creator>Friend of AAGs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 06:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have many friends in the AG&#039;s office, and here&#039;s what I hear.  This comes from Democrats who joined the office last year, from Democrats who were there from Lee Fisher and TOny Celebrezze, from Republicans, and from totally apolitical staff:

Yes, he should resign, and yes, the scandals are the biggest news, but the office has been a mess since day one.  The press never figured that out until they had a sex scandal.  Sure, they did stories on little pieces, especially the bad appointments of the ones that had to resign or get fired.  But the press still does not fully appreciate how fully he turned a professional office into a crony-driven nuthouse, and how much the staff have been grumbling all along.

They are upset that all the signs were there long before Dann&#039;s election, but the Democrats picked him anyway.  The ethics charges and other items showed that he was a loose cannon with no management skills.  No one knew what form the train wreck would take, but everyone knew that there would be a train wreck.  But the ODP ran him as thanks for his Coingate efforts and because they thought he could win, but they knew or should have known that he was a ticking time bomb.  

So if we&#039;re really honest, part of the blame goes to Redfern and the entire Democratic establishment, and it even goes to those of us who knew better and went along.  We sat on our knowledge last year, hoping the stories would eventually die down and that Dann would get his act together.

People may fault Montgomery and Petro for not being active on foreclosures or other progressive issues, or for not calling out Taft on Coingate, but they both ran the AG&#039;s office professionally.  They also ran it in a fairly non-partisan manner, keeping Democrats on staff and even hiring more and promoting them.  

Dann started right in the transition of making things more partisan and more unprofessional.  Eventually he backed off a little on the planned firings, but he was firing low-level line lawyers for purely political reasons -- something the others never did.  He sent partisan invitations over e-mail, and he made the hiring very partisan, even for new lawyers right out of law school.  He kept many holdovers, too, but he did so only when he realized he had too, and they&#039;re the ones that have kept the place running for 18 months.

Of Dann&#039;s management team, his best people are both Democrats who were already there from older days, or Republicans who stayed on.  The majority of his own hires are incompetent.  Some, of course, turned out to be unethical scum.  Others are well-meaning and honest, but just bad managers.  A few of his hires are good, but they are the exception.

I&#039;ve been hearing this since the beginning.  The worst hit are the Democrats from the old days, because they were excited about the pro-consumer part of the new wave, and have all been whispering that they wish Betty had won.  They are hit hard enough that they would trade off the policy activism for having an office they could be proud of, rather than being ashamed to tell people where they work.

In an odd way, some are thankful that this explosion has been so large that it should lead to a resignation and a fresh start.  Otherwise, they&#039;d have put up with plain mismanagement for four or eight years with no one on the outside fully knowing or caring about how bad it was.

I have heard variations on the above sentiments from many good lawyers and non-lawyers there.  Ask around, and you&#039;ll hear the same, but only if they really trust you.  Many are scared and keep their mouths and doors shut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have many friends in the AG&#8217;s office, and here&#8217;s what I hear.  This comes from Democrats who joined the office last year, from Democrats who were there from Lee Fisher and TOny Celebrezze, from Republicans, and from totally apolitical staff:</p>
<p>Yes, he should resign, and yes, the scandals are the biggest news, but the office has been a mess since day one.  The press never figured that out until they had a sex scandal.  Sure, they did stories on little pieces, especially the bad appointments of the ones that had to resign or get fired.  But the press still does not fully appreciate how fully he turned a professional office into a crony-driven nuthouse, and how much the staff have been grumbling all along.</p>
<p>They are upset that all the signs were there long before Dann&#8217;s election, but the Democrats picked him anyway.  The ethics charges and other items showed that he was a loose cannon with no management skills.  No one knew what form the train wreck would take, but everyone knew that there would be a train wreck.  But the ODP ran him as thanks for his Coingate efforts and because they thought he could win, but they knew or should have known that he was a ticking time bomb.  </p>
<p>So if we&#8217;re really honest, part of the blame goes to Redfern and the entire Democratic establishment, and it even goes to those of us who knew better and went along.  We sat on our knowledge last year, hoping the stories would eventually die down and that Dann would get his act together.</p>
<p>People may fault Montgomery and Petro for not being active on foreclosures or other progressive issues, or for not calling out Taft on Coingate, but they both ran the AG&#8217;s office professionally.  They also ran it in a fairly non-partisan manner, keeping Democrats on staff and even hiring more and promoting them.  </p>
<p>Dann started right in the transition of making things more partisan and more unprofessional.  Eventually he backed off a little on the planned firings, but he was firing low-level line lawyers for purely political reasons &#8212; something the others never did.  He sent partisan invitations over e-mail, and he made the hiring very partisan, even for new lawyers right out of law school.  He kept many holdovers, too, but he did so only when he realized he had too, and they&#8217;re the ones that have kept the place running for 18 months.</p>
<p>Of Dann&#8217;s management team, his best people are both Democrats who were already there from older days, or Republicans who stayed on.  The majority of his own hires are incompetent.  Some, of course, turned out to be unethical scum.  Others are well-meaning and honest, but just bad managers.  A few of his hires are good, but they are the exception.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been hearing this since the beginning.  The worst hit are the Democrats from the old days, because they were excited about the pro-consumer part of the new wave, and have all been whispering that they wish Betty had won.  They are hit hard enough that they would trade off the policy activism for having an office they could be proud of, rather than being ashamed to tell people where they work.</p>
<p>In an odd way, some are thankful that this explosion has been so large that it should lead to a resignation and a fresh start.  Otherwise, they&#8217;d have put up with plain mismanagement for four or eight years with no one on the outside fully knowing or caring about how bad it was.</p>
<p>I have heard variations on the above sentiments from many good lawyers and non-lawyers there.  Ask around, and you&#8217;ll hear the same, but only if they really trust you.  Many are scared and keep their mouths and doors shut.</p>
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		<title>By: BANZAI</title>
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		<dc:creator>BANZAI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 18:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d echo what Tony said, all around.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 17:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too bad Subodh Chandra didn&#039;t win the primary...

And I guess I should have stuck around to play pool, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too bad Subodh Chandra didn&#8217;t win the primary&#8230;</p>
<p>And I guess I should have stuck around to play pool, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 13:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@4:  Thanks, Tony.  As I&#039;ve said before, you can&#039;t expect to hammer on the other side for their political failings without being ready to hold your own accountable.  This actually rises above partisan politics to a concern for good government, professionalism, accountability, and ethical behavior.  

The Marc Dann era in the AG&#039;s office - despite many good consumer fights - has been overshadowed by a hostile work environment and good old boys club.  I won&#039;t stand for that.  Not in a party I generally support and in candidates I&#039;ve supported for election.  

This is why I bang on Republicans to not shill for their corrupt officeholders (Ney ring a bell?).  At some point it begins to undermine your own credibility when you fail to hold your own side accountable to the standards you employ in banging on the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@4:  Thanks, Tony.  As I&#8217;ve said before, you can&#8217;t expect to hammer on the other side for their political failings without being ready to hold your own accountable.  This actually rises above partisan politics to a concern for good government, professionalism, accountability, and ethical behavior.  </p>
<p>The Marc Dann era in the AG&#8217;s office &#8211; despite many good consumer fights &#8211; has been overshadowed by a hostile work environment and good old boys club.  I won&#8217;t stand for that.  Not in a party I generally support and in candidates I&#8217;ve supported for election.  </p>
<p>This is why I bang on Republicans to not shill for their corrupt officeholders (Ney ring a bell?).  At some point it begins to undermine your own credibility when you fail to hold your own side accountable to the standards you employ in banging on the other.</p>
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