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	<title>Comments on: Without the Green Party We&#8217;d All Be Fucked</title>
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		<title>By: mvirenicus</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2009/12/30/without-the-green-party-wed-all-be-fucked/comment-page-1/#comment-112481</link>
		<dc:creator>mvirenicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve heard the two major parties described as stupid and evil.  sometimes they get together and create something both evil and stupid.  that&#039;s called bipartisanship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#39;ve heard the two major parties described as stupid and evil.  sometimes they get together and create something both evil and stupid.  that&#39;s called bipartisanship.</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2009/12/30/without-the-green-party-wed-all-be-fucked/comment-page-1/#comment-112480</link>
		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for Barack in 2008. Needless to say I&#039;m disappointed. I think I&#039;m going to register Green again. Yeah the chances of a Green candidate winning an election for a federal office are slim and none. But at least I can vote my principles when I cast a vote for a Green. When I vote for a Democrat it is always the lesser of two evils. The sad truth is that one is evil and the other is just terribly inept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for Barack in 2008. Needless to say I&#39;m disappointed. I think I&#39;m going to register Green again. Yeah the chances of a Green candidate winning an election for a federal office are slim and none. But at least I can vote my principles when I cast a vote for a Green. When I vote for a Democrat it is always the lesser of two evils. The sad truth is that one is evil and the other is just terribly inept.</p>
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		<title>By: mvirenicus</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2009/12/30/without-the-green-party-wed-all-be-fucked/comment-page-1/#comment-112102</link>
		<dc:creator>mvirenicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s in there.  wasn&#039;t left out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#39;s in there.  wasn&#39;t left out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tabbitha</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2009/12/30/without-the-green-party-wed-all-be-fucked/comment-page-1/#comment-112056</link>
		<dc:creator>Tabbitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that list.  One thing it left out, rescinding the Mexico City Gag Rule relating to money for international aid for birth control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that list.  One thing it left out, rescinding the Mexico City Gag Rule relating to money for international aid for birth control.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.plunderbund.com/2009/12/30/without-the-green-party-wed-all-be-fucked/comment-page-1/#comment-112047</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My suspicions confirmed:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://miller-mccune.com/politics/independent-voters-are-generally-not-1361&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://miller-mccune.com/politics/independent-v...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My suspicions confirmed:  <a href="http://miller-mccune.com/politics/independent-voters-are-generally-not-1361" rel="nofollow">http://miller-mccune.com/politics/independent-v&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point is that most independents are still really either Dem or Rep.  They just like to say they are independent.  Some I&#039;m sure are thoughtful people who vote based on the policies and not on the partisan politics, but my guess is they have pretty regular partisan voting patterns.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If there were enough people up in arms about the institutional nature of he D/R entrenchment it would get changed.  I guess there isn&#039;t.  Hence, the wahmbulance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is that most independents are still really either Dem or Rep.  They just like to say they are independent.  Some I&#39;m sure are thoughtful people who vote based on the policies and not on the partisan politics, but my guess is they have pretty regular partisan voting patterns.  </p>
<p>If there were enough people up in arms about the institutional nature of he D/R entrenchment it would get changed.  I guess there isn&#39;t.  Hence, the wahmbulance.</p>
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		<title>By: Nifty Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nifty Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if all independents are independent for the same reason(s).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But even if we were all of one mind, your two major parties have stacked the deck against third parties &amp; independent candidates so massively - from allocating votes via the Electoral College via a winner-takes-all system to who gets to serve on local Boards of Election - that it makes it extremely difficult for such candidates &amp; parties to make any kind of headway whatsoever.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other words, your parties have made it, structurally speaking, nearly impossible for anyone but Democrats or Republicans to get elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if all independents are independent for the same reason(s).  </p>
<p>But even if we were all of one mind, your two major parties have stacked the deck against third parties &#038; independent candidates so massively &#8211; from allocating votes via the Electoral College via a winner-takes-all system to who gets to serve on local Boards of Election &#8211; that it makes it extremely difficult for such candidates &#038; parties to make any kind of headway whatsoever.</p>
<p>In other words, your parties have made it, structurally speaking, nearly impossible for anyone but Democrats or Republicans to get elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is shitting on Dennis.  I love Dennis.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But Dennis is one of the few electeds who can get away with being an unapologetic idealist because his seat is safe.  Dennis would never hold his seat if he was in my district (15th) and he could never win statewide office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is shitting on Dennis.  I love Dennis.  </p>
<p>But Dennis is one of the few electeds who can get away with being an unapologetic idealist because his seat is safe.  Dennis would never hold his seat if he was in my district (15th) and he could never win statewide office.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe not, but it is totalitarian.  Essentially i control it without apology.  ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tim, Brian, Brian, and Joseph all have the ability to moderate but they rarely do.  If you prove to be a valuable commenter you&#039;ll get whitelisted.  If you prove to be a fucktard you&#039;ll get banned.  Pretty simple, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe not, but it is totalitarian.  Essentially i control it without apology.  <img src='http://www.plunderbund.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Tim, Brian, Brian, and Joseph all have the ability to moderate but they rarely do.  If you prove to be a valuable commenter you&#39;ll get whitelisted.  If you prove to be a fucktard you&#39;ll get banned.  Pretty simple, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like I should chime in here since I&#039;m the guy who originally came up with the tagline &quot;A Progressive Political Playground&quot;.  I also coined and previously used &quot;Crack Hits for Campaign Staffs&quot;, but I digress.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d note that I used this tagline long before any of the other bloggers joined me at PB, so you must consider that.  It wasn&#039;t a joint decision and some current PB bloggers may not even like it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m probably the most hippy dippy of the lot here, but I also consider myself (and this blog) to be pragmatically progressive.  I don&#039;t for a second think we&#039;ll ever arrive at my vision of a Progressive America.  My aim is to bend the curve towards it so to speak.  I&#039;m in for the long haul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like I should chime in here since I&#39;m the guy who originally came up with the tagline &#8220;A Progressive Political Playground&#8221;.  I also coined and previously used &#8220;Crack Hits for Campaign Staffs&#8221;, but I digress.</p>
<p>I&#39;d note that I used this tagline long before any of the other bloggers joined me at PB, so you must consider that.  It wasn&#39;t a joint decision and some current PB bloggers may not even like it.  </p>
<p>I&#39;m probably the most hippy dippy of the lot here, but I also consider myself (and this blog) to be pragmatically progressive.  I don&#39;t for a second think we&#39;ll ever arrive at my vision of a Progressive America.  My aim is to bend the curve towards it so to speak.  I&#39;m in for the long haul.</p>
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