Well, this should come as a surprise to exactly no one, but according to reports published last week, Josh Mandel’s public employee search engine seems to be a little inaccurate. According to ABC 5 in Cleveland, the State Treasurer’s office has been receiving reports from citizens who are looking their names up in the database only to see that salaries attributed to them are inflated. How inflated? Inflated enough that at least one school district wants Mandel to take down the site to fix the $1.6 million overstatement in salaries attributed to them.

School district treasurers and a university professors’ union were among those asking that their information be pulled, or the site shut down, due to broader inaccuracies.

“I do understand the need to make this information public, however, I would think that you would not want to cause harm to public employers by disseminating incorrect information,” wrote Marsha Clark, treasurer of East Holmes Local School District in Berlin. She said listings for her district are outdated and overstate salaries by more than $1.6 million.

$1.6 million? Seriously? I can understand having a couple of discrepancies here and there but having one entire school district’s salary off by $1.6 million is a whole different story. That’s not just an error, that is a sign of systemic sloppiness.

The problem isn’t so much that the database is inaccurate. From the first day the database was released there were reports of information being wrong in it. The problem is that this whole issue has been nothing but a backhanded attempt by Mandel to vilify public employees. Not only is the information inaccurate but his office is doing nothing to take the database down and correct it. Instead, they are willing to leave the information up for anyone to access knowing full well that some of the information is just wrong. Explain to me how giving people inaccurate information helps further government transparency?

I’m sure there is a value to having a database keeping track of all public employee salaries. But there is also a value to making sure the information in it accurate, especially if you are going to release it to the public. Josh Mandel’s attempt to try and say this database has nothing to do with the current discussion of public employees in Ohio and SB 5 is laughable at best. This whole scheme has been a thinly veiled political attack on public employees meant to bring further doubt about their value to voters. Seeing how it took Mandel over six months to turn in his own financial disclosure forms to run for U.S. Senate it might have behooved him to taken the same amount of time to make sure he was getting other people’s information right as well.

Evangelize!
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  • Anonymous

    Of course I looked up my record on that spurious database and of course I found my income overstated for every year.  The discrepancies in my case relate to double counting overtime.  My department only worked overtime from July through September each year and only 10 hours each week.   The overtime was related to our direct support of the outside CPA firms performing my agency’s financial statement audits, saving the State of Ohio tens of thousands of dollars despite the overtime costs.  For the record, state law requires outside auditors for financial statement audits.

  • http://twitter.com/MyFriendCamilo Camilo José Villa

    I think they call that “rounding up.” 

    ;) 

  • http://www.facebook.com/nate.stickney Nathantagonist Bad-guy Stickne

    The most striking thing was my retired father appearing on there.  And Matt Mayer being notoriously absent.

  • Green Iris

    ‘new math’ ?

    voted today : )

  • Anastasjoy

    The data was from the Buckeye Institute. What more needs to be said?

    Plus school treasurer Marsha  Clark is wrong about this: “I would think that you would not want to cause harm to public employers by disseminating incorrect information.”

    Actually, if you’re Josh “The Empty Suit” Mandel, you would.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, when will Mandel give back the money he got from…OH WHY KEEP BEATING A DEAD HORSE!!!!!!!!

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see: he doesn’t work at all, and if he did he doesn’t work for us. He’s a bad little R dog who works for the rotten end of the 1%.

    Like Anastasia said he’s an empty suit. Perfect for the /ALEC evil plans.
    He’s a tool the oppressor, PERIOD.

  • Anastasjoy

    I have a question. Is that picture of Shannon Jones in the banner at the top that is the first thing you see going to be up there much longer? Because I don’t really like looking at Shannon Jones and I’ll have to stop coming here.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/7MU6XCC3QXAPBJW4FFBE4NDRP4 James

    I think the game is up.  Tonight on WOSU (TV) “Columbus ON The Record”, GOP Kingpin Terry Casey all but conceded an issue 2 defeat and put the blame squarely on fuzzy messaging from the Pro 2 campaign.  He specifically knocked Kasich’s last ad where is fails to connect Issue 2 to the message he he trying to deliver (I don’t think he even mentions Issue 2 specifically).  The money being flooded into the contest this last week from the Pro 2 side is too little too late.  On top of all this, I hear Sarah Palin will be around this weekend…now that should add even more fuel to the fire for our side, don’t ya all think?…Jim, Columbus 

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/7MU6XCC3QXAPBJW4FFBE4NDRP4 James

    I think the game is up.  Tonight on WOSU (TV) “Columbus ON The Record”, GOP Kingpin Terry Casey all but conceded an issue 2 defeat and put the blame squarely on fuzzy messaging from the Pro 2 campaign.  He specifically knocked Kasich’s last ad where is fails to connect Issue 2 to the message he he trying to deliver (I don’t think he even mentions Issue 2 specifically).  The money being flooded into the contest this last week from the Pro 2 side is too little too late.  On top of all this, I hear Sarah Palin will be around this weekend…now that should add even more fuel to the fire for our side, don’t ya all think?…Jim, Columbus 

  • Anonymous

    Hi Jim,

    You were right about the John Glenn ad, so that really validates a lot of the stuff you were saying earlier.  Check out the ppppolls twitter feed for some real good news! they are in the field this weekend and things are looking good so far (knock on wood)! Keep it up!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/7MU6XCC3QXAPBJW4FFBE4NDRP4 James

    LordMike, I checked the twitter site but can not find any specific poll numbers.  If they are posted somewhere can you share them?…Thanks, Jim

  • Anonymous

    My biggest problem with this site? It prints the names,place of employment and salaries of undercover police officers- available with a couple clicks.

    Sure that info is public record,but it used to be a little harder to come by. Armed with a name and city they work in it wouldn’t take much to google and get a street address.

    Another scenario- dope dealer thinks he recognizes his new customer from high school- looks up his name and viola there it is, he’s a cop now! Working right here in my city! Hey that’s my new buyer…!?!?!

    Sort of a stretch,I realize that.But police officers take their privacy very seriously, I mean they routinely get death threats from people being arrested, sometimes directed at their families. 

  • Anonymous

    No numbers yet, just this hint:

    “Unless our polling in Ohio is like the worst we’ve ever done anywhere, labor will have a victory on Tuesday night and probably a big one”

    Sorry, I can’t link on this site….

    We shouldn’t relax, though… We need to keep pounding the pavement on GOTV. Right now, no one is winning until all the votes are in. Until then, we are losing. GOTV!

  • Anonymous

    Oh, and Jim, if the GOP thinks that messaging was the problem, they are all wrong.  Their messaging was good… scary good.  I was getting quite nervous for awhile, because of the potential effectiveness of their lies.  It’s a good thing that they didn’t stick in most peoples’ minds.

  • Anonymous

    I bet those overstated income figures for state employees also include yearly cash-outs of unused personal leave and sick leave. Both of these are allowed by state law and encouraged by DAS. Neither of these is treated as income in payroll accounting records.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=740014081 Paula Garfield

    They’ll do anything to keep SB 5..sneaky, underhanded, n lying again to try n mislead public…this is just…shadey…

  • Anonymous

    It has my last year’s salary too high and I was part-time intermittent, ineligible for sick and personal time. I can’t figure it out. 

    Curiously, it was also understating the salaries of Kasich staff in the Governor’s office for a while. Now, who knows, they seem to have taken it offline.

    Rumor has it, they paid $85,000 for the website overhaul. Clearly taxpayer money well spent.

  • Fotogirlcb2002

    My union  says  they have a goal of trying to reach 60,000 across the state this weekend to GOTV.  The phone banks are still running also–
    My salary on site was wrong also  but not near as bad as some have said. BUT at the same time its misleading.
    WLW’s morning guy ” Doc”  has this on his blog site. Thats a problem because he will never tell the salaries are wrong. Odd,, is that he never told the mayor of Cinn. made less in 2010 than he did in 2008. 

  • http://ohio15th.blogspot.com StubbornLiberal

    Mandel and Boehner have refused to return campaign contributions from Richard Iott, Nazi re-enactor, and former Republican candidate.  In a search at OpenSecrets, a Richard Iott lists his occupation as “State of Ohio/Soldier” relating to a contribution on 3/19/10 to the RNC. Is this the son of the former candidate, or the former candidate himself that listed himself as a “soldier”? 

  • Fotogirlcb2002

    there is also a link on his site that you can look up all contracts across the state for everyone — I was amazed to see that my school system — base pay for teachers is about 35,000  with a BA — and that they already have a merit pay evaluation in place for step increases. So its not an automatic step increase….. same for the police where I live a merit evaluation is in place. and guess what this is all pre-sb5 !!

  • http://motivatedinohio.com MotivatedinOhio

    Saw that.  What a creep.  

  • Anastasjoy

    Shannon Jones is still up there. I’m warning you. The Stupid is catching.

  • Anonymous

    I was thinking the same thing.  By the way, did she forget to shave the morning that photo was taken, because she sure looks like she has a mustache.

  • Anonymous

    She is one fugly woman, for sure.  Looks like she was rode hard and put up wet, too.

  • Anonymous

    Right, because they are such good liars. People are stupid and want to believe this nonsense.

    Dumbing down of the electorate is almost mission accomplished.

  • Anonymous

    If I recall correctly, back in the days when state employees still received step increases, those step increases were no longer automatic after 2001 or 2002.  They were based on merit.  To get a step increase, you had to get at least “Meets Expectations”  on all criteria on your annual performance evaluation.  Other state employees may correct me if I’m wrong.

  • Anonymous

    My salary is incorrect also.

  • Anonymous

    I agree.  She looks like Kiefer Sutherland as Athos minus the rapier and beard.  Do you think she may be looking for the part in the next Musketeers movie?
     
    I’m sorry, I digress from the real point of the post; it seems that Josh still hasn’t learn how to color within the lines like most 1st Graders. Maybe before he gets to 3rd grade he will have learned that skill.

  • Fotogirlcb2002

    I have been stepped out for so long –I cant remember. Our union — well ,,we agreed to freeze the step increases the last 2 years. So with that said the new employees got hit with no wage increase, no step inceases, and those cost saving days. They lost a lot — no one tells the sacrifices we have made that saved millions, all the while  costs of everything went up. 

  • Xx

    You can disagree with her politics and opinions, but when you start talking about how someone looks you should just shut the fuck up because it doesn’t add anything to the argument, makes our side sound like idiots and, in this case, is sexist.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/I36l6R0Ppv9Xrv7VDLT3Fa7Grs4huwhgxg--#c9aea PalliYour Name

    late to the conversation but it must be said:  Iott is an officer in the Ohio Military Reserve-not official, not the state National
    Guard, more like a “patriotic” milita movement. He is ready and
    willing to drop his beer and join the fight against liberals anywhere,
    everywhere if he can dress up and wear medals.

  • Anonymous

    When your right your right.  Sorry, I got carried away (somewhat like you with your profanity).  Maybe PB should just remove that picture from the site.

  • Woltrapekim

    New PPP tweet says final ohio polling results posted on their website after 10 pm.

  • Btrains

    I am a public university employee and far from a Republican or anywhere right wing or even center or near left. I’m very far left wing and was prepared to bash the buckeye institute for embellishing my pay rate and my coworkers as well. They actually hit ours spot on. Its so depressing because now I’ve discovered that my annual pay of $23,000 a year is the lowest full time pay rate in my department, making me the lowest paid employee.

    Maybe I can use the buckeye institute data against them and apply for food assistance. Granted I’m single, but there’s gotta be something out there. Maybe others should follow my lead and instead of trying to find overpaid public employees, look and see just how many are severely underpaid. And many of my coworkers are single income families with two, three, or more children.

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