As you know, we’ve been stressing since it came out how November’s jobs report was not good news, even though it showed the unemployment rate dipping half a percent (which is technically the steepest drop in a month in thirty years) because the drop was largely (70% of it anyways) fueled by 22,000 Ohioans simply vanishing from the labor market.

As this has become the chief criticism of something the Kasich Administration has desparately being trying to take credit as a sign it’s actually done some good for Ohio, you can imagine the pitfalls of trying to make 22,000 Ohioans dropping out of the labor market (the biggest single-month drop, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer, since 1975) sound like a good thing.  Then again, you’re not fearless Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services spokesman Ben Johnson:

Johnson didn’t deny the labor force decrease played a role, but argued it would be speculative to assume they all gave up job searches out of pessimism. They could be in a holding pattern until after the holidays or preparing to start life as a full-time student when the January semesters begin, he said.

[Source: Athens News Messenger]

Yes, maybe the Kasich Administration is right.  Maybe 22,000 unemployed Ohioans simply went to that farm your mom said your ol’ dog Buster went.  It could have happened.  You can’t prove it didn’t! 

After all, I mean, come on, why would anyway need money before  Christmas?  Second, why would someone quit looking BEFORE the seasonal holidays?  Thanksgiving is at the end of November and Christmas is, and I can’t believe I have to write this, not in  November.  But food costs nothing and all you ever need for Christmas is love, and the T.V. schedule for classic Christmas specials, right?

I don’t know of any unemployed person who, even if they were planning to take classes in January, would not consider finding some work (say a seasonal job) to make a little money two months before they go to school.  Heck, I worked up until two weeks before law school.  Why?  Because here’s a lil’ fact that Ben Johnson forgot, after high school, going to school costs money.  Sure, you can get a grant or a scholarship, but chances are, you need money beyond that.  To like, eat and stuff.

Seriously, does Ben Johnson think that 22,000 Ohioans are banking on grandma’s Christmas card to get them through the holidays financially?

Nanna's not paying your rent for Christmas this year, again... don't bother asking.

Here’s the thing, though.  First, the November labor market data is seasonally adjusted.  In other words, the number is statistically adjusted so you can accurate compare to month to month that already take in account seasonally differences among the months.  Second, we looked at the data for the months of October and November from 2001 through 2011.  Outside of this year, only twice did Ohio see a drop in the labor market in November.  You know what years those were? 2008 and 2009 (you know, during that lil’ hiccup in the economy we had a few years back.)  Every other year but 2008, 2009, and 2011 in past eleven years, Ohio saw GROWTH in their labor market in November.

But, hey, Ben Johnson is an official spokesman for an agency of the Kasich Administration.  He’s no economist.  But then again, economic professors never come down from their ivy towers of moral relativism to ever present anything, especially basic economic data in the labor market as unquestionably good or bad, black or white.  I mean, heck, we probably couldn’t even find an economics professor to explain what this data means in a simplified way ordinary Ohioans can fundamentally understand…

  ”A 22,000-person reduction in the labor force, that’s a bad thing,” said Charlene Kalenkoski, a professor of economics at Ohio University.

Yeah, but what’s her field of specialization?

FIELDS OF SPECIALIZATION: Labor and Demographic Economics, Industrial Organization

Oh.  Well, she still can’t prove they’re not at that farm.  Right, Buster?

Evangelize!
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  • Rgtmwlly

    If only the 400,000 people who lost their jobs under Strickland had just “stopped looking”. You might have a point then.

    Losers.

  • Annekarima

    So where are they?   Under a rock?  Packed up and caught in that famous blizzard?
    Suicided?  Sitting in a rumored FEMA holding center?  I doubt it.  If they are smart and have ability, they are moving to areas, and there are some, where work is available, helping those states become more beneficial.  Their gain, Ohio’s loss. This blizzard going on now is going to demand much man/woman power to help with clean up and repair.  Government and companies just cannot sit around and wring their hands and say there is no money to pay for it.  People will not stand for that. 

  • Annekarima

    So where are they?   Under a rock?  Packed up and caught in that famous blizzard?
    Suicided?  Sitting in a rumored FEMA holding center?  I doubt it.  If they are smart and have ability, they are moving to areas, and there are some, where work is available, helping those states become more beneficial.  Their gain, Ohio’s loss. This blizzard going on now is going to demand much man/woman power to help with clean up and repair.  Government and companies just cannot sit around and wring their hands and say there is no money to pay for it.  People will not stand for that. 

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  • Dmoore2222

    Alot of them did. And a lot of them left Ohio. Some of them took early retirement if they could. And some of them got re-employed. Many of those jobs dried up and aren’t coming back. So what’s YOUR point? Politicians don’t create jobs anyway. So Kasich should shut his trap about it and work to get our infrastructure rebuilt. THAT would create jobs. NOT turning away $400 million dollars and the jobs that would have come with it. And YOUR job could be next in the great republican race to the bottom. 

  • Modern Esquire

    Well, first, you’re factually wrong.  400,000 Ohioans didn’t lose their jobs under Ted Strickland.    The actual number was much less than that.  In fact, according to the U.S. DOL’s LAUS survey, you’re off by nearly 100,000.  And 98% of the jobs losses that occured during Strickland term occurred during (and because of) the recession.

    You see, during the Strickland recovery in 2010, Ohio’s unemployment rate dropped (more consistently than it has under Kasich) as the State gain jobs and people RE-ENTERED the labor market.  That was a good thing.

    Kasich’s only gotten the unemployment rate down as the result of people LEAVING the labor market.

    I don’t even understand your point, if you’re making one other than to trot out that old, tired and factually incorrect partisan talking point.

    Yes, Ohio lost jobs during the recession… that’s kind of what happens in a recession.  That’s why they suck.  Congratulations, on figuring that out.

  • Anonymous

    It must kill you knowing that the unemployment rate was dropping faster under Ted Strickland than it has under Kasich.

    Or that over half of the new jobs created in Ohio this year were created in the first 90 days of Kasich’s Administration before it could do anything to take credit for them.

    Or that the only reason Ohio was able to put a quarter of a billion in the rainy day fund was because of the surplus Strickland left in his last budget.

  • Annekarima

    And with the tax structure the punishing way it is, don’t forget the ones who are resourceful and create their own employment, shady or not, run it with cash and the good ol gov never ever sees a penny, dime or dolla in its tax system except of course, when that money is spent on purchase in the marketplace.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, great!  Here comes that ghostly Christmas trinity, Rgtmwlly.  I suppose YOU think that they have all taken November off to prepare for that “most enjoyable of all holiday traditions; the GOP Christmas Party”!  By the way, I see you have bright colored barbwire wrapped around the bunker this year – makes the old mud hut look festive!

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  • Fotogirlcb2002

    I can not wrap my mind around “created jobs “  where ? most of what has gone on is paying companies who said they might leave Ohio — thats not creation.Keeping jobs here and making NEW jobs is 2 different things to me. Yes some places say they will add jobs , over a period of time (years) who can wait that long.
    It may be of some interest for you to know that while hes saying hes created jobs in fact he is getting rid of jobs.
    The folks in charge of ODOT are at present privatizing out parts of their agency . They are trying to give contracts to people who will make money off this state hand over fist.One thing they plan is to let one company have control of all the parts rooms in ODOT. Letting a for profit company have their own stock rooms on state property. Theres a lot more to this plan. None of it good for Ohio. Would take days to explain it all.
    Privatizing never saves money or provides lasting  jobs. Read ” Selling America to the lowest Bidder”  before long we will be like Texas –they claimed they created jobs also– jobs at min wage — high % only part time with no benefits.
    Would we not be better off to pay people a higher wage — let them buy products made here in this state and country. That would drive up demand thus creating more jobs. I guess thats to simple of a plan.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll give you an A+ for this post – there is no prosperity in crating minimum wage jobs; not in Texas, not in Ohio, nowhere!  Kasich needs to come up with a better slogan than: “What this state needs is a good 5 cent cigar”.  I am tiered of the GOP telling us that we need to do more with less, that is just defeatist rhetoric.  “Boney” and his tea baggers in congress need to stop playing “bait and switch” with our economy and start making it profitable for America to succeed instead of doing everything they can think of to make the President’s ideas fail.
     
    You are right on the money with this one.

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