I’m old enough to have been paid staff on both the 1992 and 1996 Clinton Gore campaigns in Ohio, and remember Ross Perot well. As teabaggers are now the flavor du jour, I thought it might be time to step into the ol’ time machine.
Teabaggers are the same people as Ross Perot voters. Exact. Same. People.
They poll well in exactly the same places Ross Perot polled well, at almost precisely the same levels Ross Perot polled at his height. If you’ll recall, there was even a point in the summer of 1992 when Ross Perot led the three way presidential race.
In fact, the dynamic which has produced the teabaggers is almost the same as the dynamic that produced Perot voters. In 1992, economic recession was the dominant force – “it’s the economy, stupid.” Remember that? Perot tapped that anger and directed it at “big government” and the budget deficit. Remember that?
What did all that deliver for Ross Perot? Nothing. Perot got to 19% in 1992 nationally, and in Ohio, I think he won Trumbull County that year (correct me if I’m wrong, please). And as teabaggers do now, Perot voters took way more votes from Republicans than they did from Democrats, likely electing Bill Clinton president.
The only difference between teabaggers and Perot voters is that teabaggers are now even more angry because the guy in the White House is a black man. Which means their moment in the political sun will probably be a bit shorter. Ross Perot flamed out with a flurry of crazy. Teabaggers already got their crazy on, and have plenty of crazy left in the tank.
So when someone tries to tell you teabaggers are the new political movement of our time, just ask them if they remember this guy.
File under “Duh” of course, but here’s more confirmation that Kasich’s main campaign platform of eliminating the state income tax is dangerous:
COLUMBUS — Legislative analysts have determined that a proposal to phase out Ohio’s income tax — a key issue in the 2010 governor’s race — would cost state and local governments and libraries more than $800 million next year.
Losses would rise from $814 million to more than $12 billion by 2020, according to an Ohio Legislative Service Commission analysis obtained by the Associated Press. The commission reviewed the proposal because it’s been introduced as a bill in the Ohio House.
Former U.S. Rep. John Kasich, the Republican candidate for governor, has made a gradual phase-out of the income tax central to his campaign platform.
Again, the question is simple. Which programs will you cut? Which prisons will you close and what law enforcement will you lay off? What social services will you end, John? At some point these questions will need to be answered. $800 million next year opens up the gap that Strickland closed. $12 billion by 2020?
Damn…
So I get back from a week in the Dominican Republic to find Modern absolutely whacking the Kasich camp, right-wing tax foundations, and wingnut bloggers alike. Safe to say he’s had a good week. I’ve enjoyed catching up on everything. Anytime you post a “Many Levels of FAIL” graphic something good is going down. Getting off the island a day before the big quake and finding Modern on this big of a roll were both epic wins. Epic.
I also hear that John Kasich is a new media ninja. LOL
Proving that no good deed goes unpunished in Kos-land, I posted this diary today, and got flamed like a champ.
Ok, so I wrote a diary with a lot of invective in it against Jane Hamsher. I apologize to this community for the invective. I do not apologize to Jane Hamsher. Here’s why.
Why is Jon Husted waging War on Christmas? First he gets busted using the corporate jets of lobbyists to jet off family and friends on fishing trips and bowl games. Then he can’t remember where the hell it is he actually lives. Now he’s waging War on Christmas?
Happy Holidays??? warmth and joy of the HOLIDAY season???
WTF Jon. You a commie? Peace and love???
Are you serious Jon? Jesus. Hah. Yes. JESUS. You don’t mention Jesus at all and only a passing reference to his father. Pagan trees and wrapped gifts. No mention of CHRISTMAS. No mention of Jesus, Mary, OR Joseph.
Really Jon Husted. Why are you waging War on Christmas? Paid for the the Ohio Republican Party. Have they all gone commie librul on us?
Nothing since JUNE? Did the official Ohio GOP blogger get fired? There’s a 3 month blogging rule. If you are dormant for 3 months you have to quit. Of course, they weren’t very relevant even when they were blogging. Anonymously I might add. Just shut it down guys. It was once a month or so anyway even when you did have something to say. It’s clear they don’t care much about it. They don’t even link it from their main site. Makes this page look silly too.
ODP is a bit livelier, but going on a month with nothing new. At least they are not nameless and faceless. Seth and Sarah (and sometimes Todd) at least own their posts.
Maybe they should outsource to one of many sycophants out there who would be more than willing to ghost write. Or are they already at their own blogs? Heh.
Rep. Jeff Wagner, R-Sycamore, said his amendment to prohibit insurers from denying coverage for any medical reason was proposed “tongue-in-cheek.”
“If we’re going to drive the insurance industry out of Ohio, why do it an inch at a time?” said Sycamore. The House tabled his amendment.
So in retaliation for proposing that health insurance companies – you know – COVER HEALTH PROBLEMS, this dick proposes they not deny coverage for any medical reason AS A JOKE.
Ha ha very funny motherfucker. I supposed that in your little skit you don’t have an autistic kid or anyone else in your family with expensive treatments not covered in your health insurance.
HA HA HA
Here I thought we paid these companies great sums of money for shits and grins. There’s no nefarious liberal plot here asshat. The reason they make money is to provide coverage. How dare we ask them to!
Just a programming note to let everyone know that we have worked out a time to have Jennifer come on to discuss her campaign and specifically her position on Afghanistan and answer questions we have about her shift in positions as previously blogged about here at PB.
Friday, December 11th at 11am
The Plundercrew will be in Columbus and our plan is to stream the talk live. More details to come on that. We hope you’ll join us.
The discussion will center around Afghanistan, but feel free to put questions to Jennifer in the comments here. We thank the campaign again for their willingness to reach out and have this discussion. It speaks volumes about the candidate that she is engaging in this way.
I post this not to get in to any big debate about the death penalty. I’m against it. I understand this to be a minority position and accept that. It makes me sad that we as a society take this position, but it is what it is.
I wanted to highlight this to point out the sheer hypocrisy among those who would comment on stories like Broom and Biros with comments like “kill the bastard”, “eye for an eye”, and “it’s about time. we should have used a .22″.
These are the same types of people who jump up and down about Sharia Law and stories from Pakistan where a person who throws acid on someone is sentenced to have acid thrown into his eyes as punishment.
It doesn’t make us any better than they and it lessens us overall. I can’t imagine a single family member walking out after having viewed the death of another human being feeling good about it. If they do, there is a deeper emptiness than they wanted to admit.
A friend sent me a link to a new video by New Left Media, who interviewed Sarah Palin supporters outside of the Borders bookstore in Dublin, Ohio. We saw this guy the morning of the event. He had a cameraman (nice camera) and an actual microphone and was interviewing people in line. His tactics are friendlier, but the stupidity still shines through:
After Tim published the last video from the all-night Palin book signing camp-out in Dublin Ohio, people began to ask us if we had more footage. But of course!
When we originally went out to see what was happening at the Border’s bookstore in suburban Columbus Ohio where people were camping out to be the first in line for a Sarah Palin book signing event, we had no idea what we’d be in for. It’s always this way. What was apparent right away was that these people were literally dug in for the long haul on their support of George W. Bush and unapologetic for having helped elect him and his disastrous administration.
When Tim came up with his “you can’t have it back because you fucked it up” line, it seemed to fit so well that not even those who were being told they fucked up our country seemed to object. They only did so once they began to realize what they were being accused of and they then searched in vain to find justifications for their past support of Bush and current support of the even more vapid Sarah Palin.
One such chap was someone we dubbed “duct tape dude”, a kid who had put duct tape over the McCain in his McCain-Palin tee shirt and replaced it with “2012″. Actually admitting in public that he wanted Sarah Palin to be our President in 2012. Game on:
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Not sure, but this may be the first blogger produced video shot at a Sarah Palin book-signing campout. We hit Camp Palin outside the Borders in Dublin, Ohio, outside Columbus.
It’s been a long night. We heard that people had begun camping out at the Dublin (Columbus area) Borders as early as 7pm, for a book signing at 6pm the next day (today). So Eric and I decided to head down with a couple cameras to see the sharp end of the Sarah Palin spear. We shot from about midnight to 1am.
You gotta be pretty in the tank to spend all night outside in damp, cold Ohio November weather, just to meet the most vapid person on the planet. These folks were in said tank. It started out fairly quiet, and then it got weird. As soon as it became clear we were not friendlies, they began tailing us, claiming they didn’t really want to be on camera after voluntarily being on camera, you know, the usual. Eventually they called the cops, who seemed more annoyed to be there than anything else.
Anyway, another depressing episode with the most ignorant group of people anyone will ever meet. Enjoy.
DDN reported on a new Facebook group opposing Jennifer Garrison’s bid for Ohio Secretary of State on Friday. I got an invite today and the group already has 155 members. No love in some of the comments either:
I’m sure you are hearing this from the LGBT Community from all around the state, but I have to make my voice heard on this. Jennifer Garrison should be a non-starter in the Secretary of State race. She is totally unacceptable for statewide office. She is a anti-gay, anti-woman and pro-gun. The is a Democrat in name only. I was outraged when she was elected, outraged when she was given a leadership position in the House. outraged when her name was floated for Lt. Governor and more than outraged at her latest move.
Ouch. From the sounds of it, Garrison pulled a Bill Ritter and beat her Republican opponent by bashing her for her opposition to an anti-gay marriage bill.
Repeat. A Democrat beat a Republican by bashing the Republican for her opposition to a bill that was anti-gay marriage. Garrison is toast. She might be able to pose as a Republican in Democrat clothing in a state congressional district in SEO, but damned if she can be a Democratic SOS.
I’ve been ignoring stuff from Marilyn Brown for weeks. I won’t be ignoring them anymore. It’s on. Yo Cliff. Get in touch buddy!
I wanted to do a quick snap poll of Ohio’s “thoughtful center-right bloggers”. How many of you are birthers and how many of you are conservatives? Or both?
Just wondering. Please feel free to comment (even those of you previously banned). This is a very serious inquiry into the current psyche of the Ohio wingnut blogger base.
Thank you,
Plunderbund
PS – If you answer birther, or think there is any hint of a doubt in your mind about possibly being a birther, Bill Pascoe wants you to stop!
