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so, did they explain why they didn’t make any republican sock monkeys, since they are such big romney supporters?

They could have created him as a donkey if it was about politics or a teddy bear if it was about the kids.

This willful desire to make their intolerable cruelty acceptable by just denying the weight of African American history, just won’t work.

A study in the ScienceDaily in February, 2008 states:
Discrimination Against Blacks Linked To Dehumanization, Study Finds

Crude historical depictions of African Americans as ape-like may have disappeared from mainstream U.S. culture, but research presented in a new paper by psychologists at Stanford, Pennsylvania State University and the University of California-Berkeley reveals that many Americans subconsciously associate blacks with apes.

Yea, all but disappeared in mainstream US culture, alright. When I as a Black person read the DENIALS, it’s almost worse than the racist toymakers and their plush monkeys.

[...] Update: In case you’re wondering, the folks making the Obama doll say their intent is not to offend:  Our objective is three [...]

My children love the clever sock monkey that resembles Barack. I am going to order 10 more as gifts. Don’t you think that you are being racially hyper sensitive? Lighten up!

That’s great, Russ. You can pass them out at your next KKK meeting.

WOW! I can’t believe that someone would actually make a monkey Obama doll or should I say TheSockObama. Many, me included, think that this is completely inappropriate and racist. The first and most obvious offense is that the doll is a black monkey, how could Obama not be offended by being compared to a black animal? Secondly the name in and of it itself could be considered offensive. Although, the makers of this doll would presumably defend the name saying that it simply describes the type of doll that it is, a sock puppet/doll. However, the name also seems to be a little bit anti Obama. Generally people, sock/punch someone that they do not like, support, approve of or are generally against. There are pictures of President Bush online making various facial expressions and comparing him to a monkey, but there is no monkey doll for Bush. I am not saying it was right to compare Bush to a monkey, but at least no doll exists. However, there is an Elite Force Aviator: George W. Bush doll. So why is it that our white president gets to be portrayed as a heroic man who will fight for his country while a black presidential candidate gets to be portrayed as a monkey? It is ironic too that this is how Bush is portrayed considering his questionable military service in the past, but that’s a whole other blog.
The makers of TheSockObama said that their intent was not to create a product that would offend, but a product that could be cuddly, allow children to get involved in the political process and be a contribution to presidential election memorabilia. I think that these three objectives are ridiculous. I think that they are just in this to make money and someone involved in the conception and manufacturing of this monkey doll probably did want to cause an uproar. If the creators are being truthful and meant no harm then I think it is sad that not one of the creators was intelligent enough to realize that this doll could be seen as offensive and was probably not appropriate to create. How does something like this get past the brainstorm stage? This product may be cuddly and it could very well become infamous presidential election memorabilia. However, the idea that a monkey sock doll made to vaguely and degradingly represent a presidential candidate could get children involved in the political process is absolutely ridiculous. Children do not get involved in politics and if for some reason a sock puppet would do the trick then they are probably getting all the wrong ideas and “involved” in all the wrong ways, HELLO perpetuation of racial stereotypes. In general, I think that this doll is offensive and that the creators should stop selling and definitely stop profiting off of this doll. If they really wanted to make amends and prove they have nothing against Obama then I think they should take all of the money they made and donate it to his campaign.
I have attached links about the Obama doll, the Bush doll, TheSockObama’s creators comments and Bush being compared to a monkey.
http://www.plunderbund.com/2008/06/11/racist-obama-doll/
http://www.plunderbund.com/2008/06/12/obama-monkey-doll-seller-our-intention-is-not-to-offend/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3184709.stm
http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Bush-monkey.gif

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“Staying true to his root”
Be scared of Mandingo.

“to capture the nostalgic look of the Sock Monkey that we all know and love.”
You know your racist so buy it!

“displays his run for Presidential Candidate on his lapel.”
Can anyone read what the button says?
He’s been a presidential candidate.

“The removable suit jacket offers two looks for this future President – All Business or Hands On.”
WTF? remove the suit and he’s Hands ON?

Their site is loaded with race baiting language and iconography. How about the picture at the top of page? This is soooo Republican.

“Pivotal” is a curious word choice. Is he hoping that the doll will have a major or decisive effect on the election outcome? How would a doll do that, unless there was some kind of subtext involved?

As an image and politcal consultant, i have a soultion to the sock monkey debate. Agree to pull the product and revamp it, to a cute cuddly action doll, get rid of the racial conotations, donate to the NAAACP and have a press conference and offically apologize for racial insensitivity at the same time recognize that any proceeds earned will go to a call of the candidates chosing.

Liberals have not problem with late term abortion. Drilling a hole in a newborns head as it leaves the womb. They call it a womans choice.

The purchase of a monkey doll, is a choice.If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

I guess something is only ok if it suits your agenda.

Like the real Obama, take the pants off the doll, and you will find NO BALLS.

the people who buy this sick thing are the same ones to say “i have black friends”

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so because this doll happened to be a monkey it’s racist? what other brown animal would resemble Obama? Listen, people just need to chill out and stop bringing rascism into everything. Half the time no insult is even meant. But every one wants to stay a victim, and dwell on how oppressed they are….GET OVER IT!!! Stop holding yourself back and stop dwelling on the negative. The black community thats offended by this is insulting themselves for even wasting their time and energy on such negative emotions. Race isn’t a factor in everything you guys.

i think it is racist and i love it. obama looks like a monkey because he is a (word the wouldn’t let me say that starts with an N) i hope he doesn’t make it as president that would be a sad day and probably a sign of the apocalypse.

@17: Everyone, meet Chase Evans. Racist from the great Northwest! Hi Chase!

@16: Yeah Liz. We just need to chill. Depicting a black Senator running for President as a monkey in a suit is no big deal. You are right! Silly us.

Ya fuckwit.

that is perfect white america with the i didnt know i didnt mean it hear it all the time am once i was told i need to get uses to it not a lot of knowlegde in white america on that subject but i can understand the mental heck they told them to walk,run,shut up,this is what you get to learn,to teach them what white u.s.a. needed to get across. and even today a half of a black man cant get respect. yes 1771-2008 all the black family all the black fathers all that distruction YES WHITE U.S.A you did a good job thanks too people like joseph TIME GET USED TO IT BEING CHANGED

Do you folks have anything better to do than raise he** about a sock monkey??? Will the ACLU step in when these people make a McCain doll that looks like a white potato? I think not!!
Fact: Obama has brown skin and a big set of ears (although for some reason the “supposed king” has said we can’t talk about his ears). The funny thing is the sock monkey has just about the same amount of experience as Obama has relative to assuming the roll of President.

Blah blah liberal blah ACLU blah…

Get your facts straight, Fred.

The ACLU defends individual rights.

If anything, they would support this company’s right to free speech if any government entity tried to take it away.

Fortunately, we aren’t a government entity. And we aren’t trying to take away their rights.

We’re just trying to show the world that Dave & Ellee are producing an obviously racist product with the hope that the negative attention will force them to do the right thing and stop selling it.

Think of it as social pressure as a check on the free market.

I think it’s funny and that black people should stop taking things so personally!!! get over your selves! Most of us in america these days ancestors weren’t even in the country yet during the whole slave thing. Maybe if you didn’t know for yourselves that you are a bunch of hoodlems who fill up our jails.. maybe it just wouldn’t be so offensive.

LOL Chase- you have got that right!!! I am SO moving countries is a black gets elected! How could this be? I never that I would see this in my lifetime. Who would vote for a.. MONKEY! haha. Him and his ghetto wife should stop while they are ahead!

Hi Jessica. Thanks for visiting Plunderbund you racist bitch!

Why shouldn’t I be racist? Name one good thing to come out of black people coming to the US? Aids?Crime? HMM real swell accomplishments there!

Everyone meet Jessica. Racist bitch from South Carolina (North Charleston is it?).

Maybe if you people would act like PEOPLE.. I would not have a problem. It’s not your skin color.. it’s how the black race acts. My gosh. It’s absolutely terrible. Get off the computer and go listen to your rap videos. Please. You have no business on a computer. shouldn’t you be out shooting each other and living the gangster life?

HOW did you know that? Do I need to call the police? Will you be coming to murder me with your homies?

Who the FUCK are “you people”? I’m white, btw. So is every other blogger here. You know what though? I haven’t banned someone in a long time. I’m feeling twitchy today.

Best crawl back under the rock you escaped out from under in North Charleston before you get metaphorically abused. Or better yet, check out some of the wingnuts sites here in Ohio. They might have you.

You are officially on a short leash here.

how did you know where I lived??? That is really freaky stuff, there, man.

@29: It’s the Internets. You have an IP address. No, you need not fear me coming anywhere near your general vicinity.

Peace.

PS – next racist diatribe gets edited. be respectful here or leave and don’t come back.

…and don’t say Eric didn’t warn you.

how did you get my ip address??

I just called the bank.. and now I am dialing the police. You have my full address? Your a hacker?

There are ways. But the easiest is from you commenting on a blog. You see, Wordpress (software this blog is run on), automatically logs IP addresses for people who comment.

You are never as anonymous as you think. You might rethink things before you go spouting off about how I (or some random black person) has no business on a computer.

At least learn how IP addresses work before saying such stupid shit. NOW who has no business being on a computer?

@35: LOL. That’s funny. Have the police and the bank email me at eric@plunderbund.com.

Easiest thing for you to do is to take your racist ass off the Internets. It’s bad for you.

Well I certainly am not into hacker stuff? Could you get my bank info as well? you have my full address?

Relax. I don’t know your address or your bank info. I do know that your IP address originated from North Charleston, SC. That’s about it. That and you’re a racist bitch who knows fuck all about the Internets.

Have a nice day. And remember. NO more racist bullshit or Uncle Eric pulls the plug. K?

Hugs, EV

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Wow, Jessica, you are stupid. Your IP address is logged almost everywhere you post. If you post on my livejournal, for heaven’s sake, I have your IP address.

well I don’t know nothing about that!!!! How do you do it????? They don’t sell the dolls anymore!!! MAN I wanted one.

internets!

what is internets? Where can I buy one now? I think they are too funny

Jessica, I can’t believe that you posted that AN ENTIRE RACE should stay off the internet, and then displayed your complete and total ignorance of even the most basic concepts. Furthermore, you can’t spell or write an intelligible sentence. (If you use Firefox as your browser, you can turn on the spellchecker. You’ll still be a racist fuckwit, but at least you’ll look marginally less stupid.)

Somebody should stay off the internet, and it isn’t the black folks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ip_address

I am officially a Snowe fan now. Been building for a while. Figured I’d make it official. I love me some Snowe!

Hi, I’m Jessica. Stupid racist bitch from North Charleston, South Carolina. I’d like to spew my racist crap on Plunderbund, but they won’t let me!

(Editor’s Note: This comment was edited for clarity.)

I’m just finishing up hacking into Jessica’s computer and stealing her bank account information.

That’s what she gets for using bellsouth as her internet service provider.

*how

Well The police have been called, Have a nice day. In JAIL . Im sure that’s not new to you though, is it?

Psst. I think Joe is pulling your chain. Not totally sure, as he is one who has some IT skilz. But I’m about 60% sure he is just messing with you.

Had enough fun yet?

@50: No. It wouldn’t be for Joseph. In fact, I believe he may even be blogging from jail now.

The account is on a watch and police are coming to file a police report. So he can use my bank account in Jail.

police! internets! save my bigotry!

Jessica. Seriously. Do yourself a favor and unplug your computer and toss it out of the trailer window.

Seriously.

You don’t even have enough money in your account for me to waste time stealing.

And I wouldn’t want you to miss the monthly mortgage payment for your trailer.

hardly a trailor, LOL

you must not have been in my acct then. how much did i have smarty?

Sorry- doublewide.

double wide! internets!

SOO spill it.. if you were in it, How much do I have?

i took all your money and gave it to the NAACP.

Jessica, the more you post, the lower my opinion gets. Not only are you a prejudiced asshole, but you are also too dense to realize when people are making fun of you. Please, read the link I gave you about IP addresses.

I cannot believe that you have called the police because someone was mean to you on the Internet. They’ll probably have a good long laugh at your expense.

Obviously, Jessica, I didn’t access your bank account.

Not yet, anyway.

I called the police because somebody has threatend to steal my money. That is why. They will not laugh when they get here, they take this internet hacking stuff seriously!

well why are you so rude to people who just come to share their opinion. I’m not the only one who thinks this, and personally i’m a little bumbed I couldnt get a obama doll!

Officer: “uh… ma’am – are you telling me you called 911 because you think someone on a blog is stealing money from your bank account?”

Jessica: “yes! Yes! just look at what they said!”

Officer walks over to computer – reads the screen – turns back to Jessica: “ma’am, is your name Jessica?”

Jessica: “yes! see how they threatened me!”

Officer: “Racist bitch.”

Office slams door of trailer on his way out.

Oh for heaven’s sake. You freaked out over someone knowing your location because of your IP address, and they took the opportunity to tease you about your ignorance.

You didn’t come to share your opinion, you came to spew racist bile. I’m not inclined to be nice to racists who whinge about not being able to buy racist memorabilia.

This. Is. Teh. Awesumz.

So. Have we proven that racism is borne of ignorance or what? PLUS we got a good laugh!

the police just showed up at my house. they were both black. then they made out.

LOL. Tim trying to push the thread to 90. Thanks Tim!

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I’ll bet the first thing the officers had to say to Jessica, once on the scene, was:

“Ma’am. Put down the Moon Pie and Pork Rinds and no one gets hurt!”

And no, I’m not black either, Jessica.

I begin to suspect Poe’s Law. Jessica is just too good to be true.

hey Eric, you should really see someone about your White Guilt. that chic has just as much right to post her opinion as do the minions of black bigots in the blogosphere. If you can’t handle, don’t post on racial issues.

~a not so “Typical 1/2 White Person”

Well, after Plunderbund done stoled all of Jessica’s money and gave it to the NAACP, then Jessica would be Poe folk, right?

I’ve posted this comment on cynical-c which links to this page. And thought I’d copy/paste it here as well:

I may be going out on a limb here, but I must say that Obama sock doll is kinda cute.

I’m not saying the racial undertones of this doll aren’t actually racist – in all probability they are.

I’m just thinking maybe it’s not as harmful as it may at first appear.

If anything, this campaign has been a way for Americans to try to break away from race issues which have been dogging them their whole lives.
And being scared/outraged at a cute monkey doll
is not really the way to go IMHO.

There IS a market for this toy. And that market is probably racist redneck republicans. But in a strange way it might also be a way for them to deal with their next president being black.

I can imagine at least one little blonde girl out there who’s going to make this her favorite doll, if her parents buy it.
In a strange way this might actually help that little girl to not grow up being scared/hating black people.
Sure, some parents will freak out when their kids end up liking the doll. But these kids’ll know in their hearts that their parents are over-reacting, and that the big black boogeyman they’ve been taught to hate might actually be kinda cute.

just a thought…

@76: Thanks Savvy. You don’t know me. Please don’t pretend to. That “chic” (racist bitch) has zero right to post her opinion on this here corner of ours on the Internets.

We encourage commenting, but discourage disjointed racist polemics.

I can handle a great deal – beyond what the likes of Jessica or you might toss my way. Ask around. I’ll also post on whatever I feel.

She has the right to her opinion, sure. That doesn’t mean she gets to post it here. The bloggers here pay for this space, so they get to decide what’s welcome here and what isn’t.

How nice of you to assume that anyone interested in racial equality is a “minion” of “black bigots”.

@79: Armand, that’s probably one of the dumbest things I’ve heard today. This being the day it is, I’ve heard a great deal of dumbness.

I think you fell off the limb you were out on. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and try try again!

I kinda, sorta get where you are coming from and I sense you say this with the best intent. My view is you shine light on and destroy racist thought wherever you see it. No quarter. I’m not thinking “this could actually be good” is a proper response to a racist Obama monkey doll.

I think this may be entirely appropriate for this thread:

the black cops are still making out at my house.

@84: That’s not true. Know how I know? If it were, you’d already have a YouTube up on your Internets Blogsite!

ok, i lied.

the black cops are making out at jessica’s house. in a cage. with double headed dildos.

No wonder she hasn’t been around. I hope she has a video camera. What’s the saying? Once you go black…

88.

I love when a person is so dense they can’t comprehend how offensive they’re being.

Haas! I knew you would be here! Holler buddy!

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3563503

Audio interview with Dave Lawson. The radio host starts out by saying “I’m sure you’re not a racist.”

Ick.

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So I guess the million comparisons to our current president as a chimp would also be considered racist or at the least, ill-thought? I find it funny that the average reaction to that comparison is one of humor but change the color and it’s considered racist. Where’s the blogs of outrage on this? Hypocritical don’t you think?

I guess our nation’s past-time making fun of a public figure (particularly presidents) becomes taboo when that figure shade becomes a few shades darker.

I think my fellow people of color, need to lighten up (no pun intended). ACQUIRE A SENSE OF HUMOR and also spellcheck. It’s watermelon with one “l”.

@92: Hi EBW. Thanks for visiting Plunderbund! The difference between comparing Bush to a chimp (both of lower intelligence than human) and comparing Obama to a monkey and making it into a sock doll should be very obvious to an actual educated black woman.

Really. It should.

Wow! Eric, Joseph and Snowe, I like the way you handled Jessica. It really saddens me to see such blatant racism, running rampant in today’s society. Unfortunately, racism is alive and kicking and there is no denying it what-so-ever. A vast majority of people refuse any type of change that falls outside of the box of their narrow, petty minded views, especially, when it means placing a Strong, Black Man in a Position of Power (something that has been feared by most). I am an African American Woman and very proud of my heritage. Don’t blame me for my forefathers’ mistakes, and I won’t blame you for yours! I see beyond your pettiness, and I question your worthiness! And sadly, I find you lacking.

Once you have learned to look beyond a person’s skin color (race/heritage), and can then make an intelligent, assessment of their character and worth, HOLLER back at me!

Jessica, you asked for one good thing that came out of black people coming to the U.S. I’ll give you just 10 because the list is far too long to name them all.

http://teacher.scholastic.com/activities/bhistory/inventors/

Nice answer Eric B. How is Rakim these days?

Here is another link for the furthering of your education Jessica…

http://www.littleafrica.com/resources/inventors.htm

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The “Jessica Incident” was entertaining. People of ethnicities other then Anglo/White are sensitive about racism subjects due to most people of these cultures experiencing some type of injustice/unfairness at some point in their lives. Denotation of subjects/events as racism have often been done without logic and done with pure emotion. To tell others to simply “get over it”, “stop being sensitive”, or any other typical cliche said in order to dismiss another person or group’s feeling is obsurd; especially when one doesn’t know what is the cause “sensitivity”.
Example: People who call others “retarded” without thinking much of it (guilty here). One should not be angered when another person gets upset for usage of the word.It could be the individual being upset has a handicapped family member. Recently learned to stop using the word through a good friend of mine.
People often compare apples to oranges when defending or attacking almost any subject. Using Bush as a chimp can not be compared to Obama as a chimp. Apples to Apples would be making bush a skinhead or putting him in clan attire. Even a hillbilly/redneck/broken truck isn’t meant to be racist, its meant to satire stupidity and or ignorance. You can’t use an object/symbol that has been used to stereotype or oppress a group <— common sense that many in this country do not own. No one said it might not be cute, interesting or funny, but it is poor in taste and racist. I find it funny in the sense that someone actually thought it might be okay or no one would “get it”. Also, if you ever have to state any of the following: “im an educated person”, “im smart” , “i went to such and such school therfore…”, YOU NEED TO STOP TYPING. Step back from the keyboard, pick up some logic books and keep “educating” yourself. Maybe one day you’ll realize one should let words sway an opinion of education or what quality that education consists of.

Before the smart ass comments occur
A) I’m Latino/Hispanic/Mexican/Mexican-
American/American all a label, i dont care what you call me. Don’t call me white though, thems a fighting word, umm not really.
B) My son is a little hillbilly (part irish, where the term hillbilly came from) who doesnt like shoes.
C) I don’t take stuff seriously, unless you are arrogant or ignorant
D) Dave Chapelle said “The world isn’t ready for the N-word” after he got back from Africa. That’s the opinion of a comic with “very educated” parents.

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I don’t see the big deal. For one, the doll actually looks like Obama. Two, they make a McCain sock doll also. The whole controversy makes me want to rush out and buy them up!

Marcy:
Jessica wants her casserole dish back. Could you please drop it off on your way out of the trailer park? Thanks!

LOL. That is funny, right there I don’t care who you are. You wanna blog on Plunderbund? We like funny.

Jessica,
I like your thinking!!!
You are being labeled a racist for being proud to be white!! If you were available I would love to meet
you. it’s hard to find a girl with morals today

Plunderbund,
Your songs suck!!! try some David Alan Coe!!!! maybe you will see the way it is!! learn “BOY”

so basically will only post comments that
agree with you. it is america that we live in people and we can do and say whatever we want. if your worried about obama getting made fun of now just wait and see how much fun they will make of him if he became president. i want one of
those monkeys and put him on the dash of my truck

104: if by “morals” you mean being a racist bitch then I guess you and Jessica are destined to be together.

why is everyone so sensitive, he said she said, who cares, quit trying to make the world correct in your eyes, someone deserves the right of free speech( even if it is racist) just as much as you deserve the free speach to be a crybaby.

I ordered an Obama sock doll from David J. and Elizabeth Lawson on June 26, 2008 and have not yet received it. I found others on the internet who were ripped off, also.

Anybody have information on whether or not the Lawsons are just stealing money and not sending out the dolls?

I will be spending ten bucks on ussearch.com to get their home address and phone number in case I travel to Utah in the near future.

Ken Camp, Los Angeles

There was no Romney monkey doll simply because Romney isn’t a nigger.

Another racist fuck emerges. This one from Homosassa, Florida. Say cheese: hplinkpl@yahoo.com

You people look to call everything racist because you’re bored with your lives. Get out and do something. And what’s wrong with being proud of your race? Im white and proud of being a more advanced race, and I have science to back that statement up with facts. Nigger lovers.

I’m an educated, professional white woman, and I am appalled and afraid to see there are so many racists STILL out there. It is truly disappointing. Plundercrew – I think y’all should delete their bullshit comments! Their ignorance is disgusting. And I have to say, they’ve really got it coming to them, because KARMA is a BITCH.